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NFW this car would be 55k. Those projections are just made up excuses for why we don't have it.

yeah but sales of the lucerne will start tanking soon. the park avenue or statesman or whatever will maintain brand interest after the lucerne get's dismissed in the public's mind.

why does the G6 weigh so much then

the ecoweenies, lawyers, and feds would legislate this out of existence.

aurora and seville from the 90's. eldo/riv/toro from the eighties original toro original taurus citation/omega/etc.

agree!

it does! its as luscious as an S Class back there. wow, the misses and i could really make great use of that back seat. i think no I still prefer the daewoo/holden dash to the park avenue one, but its a minor thing. its mostly the same anyways. WOW. Get Mr. Lutz on the line and please have him explain why we can't have this now. My guess is its unions, health care, beancounters, supplier contracts and unions. mix in a bit of poor management too.

thanks for being just like motor trend and all the other journalists. wow, i am blown away. i go back and forth on whether i prefer the daewoo dash or this one. i like both and just will say choice is good! this car is a dream. absolute crime its not here. CRIME. and the buick dealers say they didn't want this? then they all deserve to go under. WOW. maybe buickman can explain why the dealers would not want this AWESOME CAR.... I would tweak the grille and rear and sculpt the sides a bit more for buick (go to GMi for an awesome chop) but as is its fantastic. speechless really.

since we sell like 2 million pickups in this country each year at non luxury transaction prices I would think there is a great impact to society to make a hybrid truck that will collectively save us billions of gallons of fuel. a few thousand ugly overpriced luxury cars that save a couple hundred gallons a year means less than what i am about to spit into the urinal while i am peeing in a few minutes.

the baby boomers are most self righteous, image conscious, self important generation ever and judging by all the 'hair club for men' guys wearing nautica and such that try to pick up 30 year old chicks, um yeah, you still see buckets of the graying geezers trying to think like they still matter. does the new TURDRA have timing chains, not that i can tell........

i had a belt jump on my chevette many years ago. to do it with a truck while pulling a trailer would be beyond hilarious, except if it happened to you.

oh, it wasn't directed at you, my question was more for the masses, RWD alone of the same size car vs. front drive does not solely account for 30% difference in fuel economy.

so how is a 3800 pound rear drive v6 G8 that much more of a gas hog than a 3750 pound front drive v6 grand prix? note all the multiple underlying issues here. people wanted to steer demand through the supply chain and not by consumer choice. usually this is hard headed ecoweenies or liberals behind this. politicians not willing to take the risk of doing the proper thing (raising gas tax) and instead choosing to make the manufacturers look bad. 'academics' and 'experts' saying mpg boosts are easy but offering no solutions or evidence on how to do it. no one offering incentives to say, make carbon fiber or aluminum or electric wheelmotors economically viable for the carmakers for the common good of us all. no insight on how to sell all those small cars that get 40mpg when clearly no one in this country wants small cars because of no space and deadly crash results. and the whole can't build small cars profitably here thing means if they legislate the supply chain to make all small cars and we can't make them here it simply means driving the US auto industry out of business. Unless politicans and the public are willing to step up to the plate and support the US not toyota etc. the toyota bangers cannot have it both ways. People would have to stop buying toyotas and clearly they won't do that either. If we need to build small cars here we need to fix all of our trade issues with unfair japan and other 3rd worlders. Let GM's imported Daewoos count towards their cafe credits then.

if they wanted to, it would be easy enough to just bring over the statesman in addition to the G8. That way they could plug the RWD need to say they have it, it just seems to me they are questioning spending so much development money for new cars when the aussie cars could simply be rebadged, if they are being skittish about the net effect of the ecoweenies and blaming climate cycles on cars warming the earth. but to me, this again exposes greater management weakness. they seem to want to throw their whole corporate direction on one narrowly focused platform approach, and clearly it hasn't worked. 'let's go all fwd'....then the 300 hit and gm was f-ed. now Gm says 'all RWD' and they worry about getting f-ed again. well guys, how about this........ THINKING GLOBAL PLATFORMS 1 micro/subcompact FWD platform 1 compact platform 1 or 2 true midsized-large FWD/AWD platforms 1 upper mid sized to large RWD/AWD platform lambda and then pickups/full sized vans and suv's for the north american market. enthusiasts might want a smaller RWD/AWD platform as well. these architectures could cover over 90% of GM's vehicle offerings GLOBALLY. then, on top of this, modular 4 cylinder, v6, and v8 engines. how bout some 4 and 6 cyl diesels too. damn, that doesn't sound too hard? if you continuously devote the resources globally to cover all these possible bases, than you're not f@#kED when one style of platform gets fashionable or heavy use due to fuel economy etc. this is all about management not planning ahead and understanding the need to develop all of these platforms continually and evolve them over time and not neglecting anything. DAMN. i am speechless at this news actually. they still have no clue over there. or as one poster said, it is merely posturing. In any case, GM needs to figure out how to do business on the fly. They need to learn how to function so that decisions they make aren't so live or die and so that decisions made one day can be reversed or that decisions don't need to be nmade 4 years in advance of showroom day. hows about 1 year, concept to market. If the platform is always there, its a whole lot easier to do. Again, Americans, tripping over their own two feet, not having a clue about how to evolve and stay ahead of the game.

it's so bizarre because the radio and climate controls look nice. its just that the dash shapes are boxy and bland and the plastic is wanting.

km77.com pics it's so totally obvious that this may have been the next 9-2x at one time.

thanks, I'm not the only one who saw that, then. I can't believe they would do something so stupid as to show timing belts for overhead cam motors in an ad. that's incredibly dumb. tell a farmer he's gotta change that thing at 60k miles. he's laugh his ass off and mutter some slurs and opinions about how dumb of a design that is for a work vehicle. = that's one market segment they won't be tapping in to. You know, I should hold my mouth until I find out whether Ford has chain driven cams or belt driven ones on their OHC's. searching a bit more, it seems most if not all toyota's 'trucks' have timing belts. of course now that the new tundra is real man sized it will see more abuse and that is why i wonder if this will hold up. To top it off, I see that the earlier v8 tundras are 'interference' engines to boot.

is this the next corolla, or vibe?

km77 exterior is quite clumsy however

Jeep "Cherokee" on KM77.com

damn, all very tasty lookin stuff.

health care costs. union contracts. beancounters. maybe its just history repeating itself. It kinda looks like a bloated dodge omni interior.

driving an Ion and Cobalt and even a 4 cyl grand am back to back is amazing. the cobalt is pretty quiet and the others are raspy. same engine though...the sound dampening and chassis NVH is the difference.

i bet the svelte XJ still gets better mpg. The Maserati would probably be my pick here. Imagine the cackling behind the backs at the office when mr. 'i'm so cool boss man' doesn't show up in a european car. "Hi Mr. Jones, that sure is a nice Camry" I'm sorry. You can socially justify an asian lux car purchase up to a certain price.....but once you cross say, 80k and get into that rarified air of the really rich, you're a damned idiot to buy a poseur wagon asian car. hybrid is the only way Lexus can try to pass off a 100k vehicle. Everyone else would laugh at them otherwise. a 100k luxo sedan with a CVT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LMAO!!!!!!!! that's like a full size pickup with TIMING BELTS........oops!!!!!!!!!!