balthazar

? You’re WA-AAAAAAY OFF. At GMC, EIGHTY PERCENT (80%) of the HD trucks are either the AT4 or Denali. One lot I walked this spring had a Sierra 3500HD Denali turbo diesel stickering at $83K.

Ugh; Canadian Parisienne = Chevy narrow chassis & running gear.

nissan test mule spotted on NY public road ~

mercedes' ATPs barely edge out Cadillac (#2), so that tells you how much the downmarket/mainstream products balance out the handful of $100K+ vehicles they sell.

>>"Much like Cadillac EXT, Lincoln Blackwood, Lincoln Mark LT didn't work, there is no Lexus version of the Tundra, etc. Not a lot of market for a luxury pick up."<< Yeah, but it'd be a mercedes, which certainly could mean a mass-volume mainstream model. They could have a 4-banger mid-size truck, start it at $32K and try and stick a $30K-long option list to it. Lots of plastic cladding, 28 circular air vents, add an AMG package and boom!- another revenue stream.

Do you even know what you're talking about here??

Stop advocating the rape of vintage classics. Go electrify a 30-yr old Suburban - have all the space for junk you can possibly use, in a vehicle no one cares about/has no historic significance.

This has to be the worst summer in memory for me for spotting. It's like nothing going on out there. I may actually have to go to a car show again.

GM-sourced info says the expectation for the diesel line to start again is December. As GM is relatively dedicated to the turbodiesels, I expect them to continue the longest in the IC fleet. The MPG certainly helps the Corp numbers, and the consumer demand is very strong for them.

Sure they did. The early 2002's were a few hundred dollars cheaper than a same-year Chevy Bel Air, and it was certainly cheaply equipped! They weren't common, but they weren't expensive.

No... These are changes for '22. Don't forget- there are 2 Trail Bosses- Custom line & LT line. In '21, Custom 'Boss can come with the 4.3L/6-spd, 5.3L/6-spd or 6.2L/10-spd. LT 'Boss can come with 5.3L/10-spd or 6.2L/10-spd. For '22, the 4.3L is gone, and the 2.7L & 3.0L DM are added to the Custom 'Boss, and the 3.0L DM is added to the LT 'Boss. - - - - - GM really doesn't have (the trucks at least) set up as 'standard' and 'optional', except the prices to increase as the engines 'go up'. Same thing... mostly. In '21, an LT 'Boss 5.3L CC/5.5' bed starts at 53,195, and going to the 6.2 the price rises $2425. In the '21 RST, the 2.7L starts at 48,895. Going to the 5.3L raises the price by $1325. Going to the 3.0L DM the price rises $2370 (over the 2.7L) Going to the 6.2L the price rises $3820 (over the 2.7L)

So Daimler isn't going to bother trying to compete in the hottest vehicle segment, one that has been growing steadily for, I dunno, 50 -60 years?? Why would they leave those billions on the table for other OEMs to sweep up? SO stupid. And why are they still wasting time with hybrids? The industry is pushing past them SO rapidly...

[Spin the Wheel of Bar Moving....] So here again, you are applying the 'sells the most = so great and the best ever". I hadn't heard you were that in love with the F-150.

This is the second time I saw this at my buddy’s shop (first time was on a MB e-class). This was an International flatbed :

'59 Buick barn find... in France. Official export car- note speedo.

I don't know the year of this ad :

According to GMFleetOrderGuide, the following powertrain changes are slated for model year 2022 (to date; a carry-over of the '21s). • 4.3L EcoTec3 V6 (LV3) : discontinued • 5.3L EcoTec3 V6 (L82) : discontinued • E85 FlexFuel (FHS) : discontinued • 6-spd HydraMatic (MYC) : discontinued > 2.7L Turbo I4 (L3B) : standard on Silverado WT, Custom, Custom Trail Boss / Sierra 1SA > 5.3L EcoTec3 (L84) : standard on Silverado RST Crew Cab / optional on Sierra 1SA > 5.3L EcoTec3 (L84) : optional on Silverado WT / discontinued on Sierra AT4 > 3.0L Duramax I6 (LM2) : optional on Silverado LT Trail Boss / standard on Sierra AT4

Rivian R1S starts at $75K. bmw x5 starts at $59K. Not at all in the same price range. bmw x6 starts at $67K. Close, perhaps some will cross-shop, but not many. Also almost twice as slow to 60 as the Rivian (5.3 vs. 3.0)... according to your common metric that means no one will remotely consider the bmw. x7 at least is $75K, direct competition price-wise. And the only one. Rumors about the x8 have been swirling at least since summer of '20, but it's merely a 'GT' variant of the X7... nothing special. GT variants typically sell very poorly, so expect a price-topper GT to be near impossible to move.

Bmw doesn’t have 7 or 9 SUVs in the Rivian’s price range; they have 1. So if the buyer doesn’t like the X7, they can go over to Rivian. See how that turned?