BuddyP

moving corperate out of D-town won't hurt the city... moving NAIAS out will.

I've kept track of it since I sold it 8 years ago, I hope to find out who has it.

Moving HQ to Warren makes sense. I never really understood why corperate based themselves out of the ren center when the heart of GM was in Warren to begin with.

Then that means there should be no benefits (tax or gov't benefits) for being married for anyone. If churches ever have to pay taxes, then so would every other charitable establishment that has put effort into trying to do good and help people in a country with dwindling morals and selfishness (Goodwill, united way, etc.)

So I hop back on syty.net (My rare visit to the site) to see a post about my old GMC Syclone up for sale in NY. I owned #1616 from '97-'01 and sold it with 33k on the clock. It now has 43k and the guy had it listed at $8500. I emailed him last night to find out it was already sold. Damn the luck!

I made a new one, but original was deleted! http://www.cheersandgears.com/index.php?showtopic=33417

Yup!

"Sigh".....

hmmmm.... huh.... yup If I say any more I'll be accused of being a unpatriotic american bigot by the far left.

But the gov't didn't take full control, buy up majority stake, limit pay limits, tell depters (who get paid first in any other bankruptcy) that they can basically take stock worth $0.10 on the dollar or nothing at all. That was also before the Japanese makers had a stronghold and decent size market share. What's happening now is no different than how Hugo Chevez took over the oil companies in Venezuela. How ironic that now that the gov't owns majority in the company that it now doesn't have to pay back the loans... huh, how about that. I said this would happen back when they first gave em the money. I support GM for the history, the love of cars, the engineering and design teams. Not for the politics which will drive it into ground. Not saying I won't buy another GM vehicle, my next daily driver may be a Cobalt SS. I'll still give em til the end of the year to see what is really going to come out of this. I do NOT want GM to get driven into the ground, I also do not want to see Camaro, Corvette, GM performance devision or any other niche/specialty vehicle or progam to get axed because of an administrations unproven theory on global warming or using the "bad use of taxpayer money" excuse. The Hot Rod Power Tours stop at the Tech Center this year has been cancelled because of the use of "tax payer money" to set it up.......thanks Obbie admin!! Yes I was looking forward to it and was going to drive up there on June 9th. I'm also worried as to what will happen for the Woodward Dreamcruise in August also. I always make purchase decisions based on product, that is why I can tell you that when GM starts importing Buicks from China, I will NOT be buying one. There's a difference between being "involved" and "taking over"

GM would've been just fine in Chapt. 11. They would've purged their own system and ditched the Union instead of Pontiac! This is where the gov't intervention went wrong. Now that the economy is in the dumps and people aren't buying, let's put more regulations on cars and EPA to raise the cost of new cars even more.... BAAAA! Sorry... I do feel better today though. But something better "change" for the better with this process in the next couple months.

Take your pick, 1987 Monte Carlo SS or Caprice Classic painted in a satin primer black with polished billet wheels and a 383 stroker.

They made it 100 years before death by gov't. Thought we could share some of the past in this post.....

My guess is they would be better to lease it out at this point until the market turns back around. I bet they are kicking themselves for deciding to buy the Ren center 2 years ago!

Bingo!

I agree, there's no reason for them being in the Ren center. I wonder how close to the $660 mil they can get back out of it this day in age?

Morals? Quality? Giving meven more money to a communists country that already doesn't like us very much? I can go on.....

The govt's takeover of GM was the beginning of the end... this finally puts it to rest. After being a long time loyal fan of GM, this will cut the last string that clings me to them. Looks like I'll have a Ford lineup in the garage within the next few years.

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/05/12/report-...-u-s-consumers/

Dont' really see a reason for them to, property and taxes are cheap compared to elsewhere, and with the hurt, none of that will rise anytime soon.

For those of you that don't know Detroit area, it's just on the very boundry of down town that is bad/rough. The majority of the rest of the area is actually pretty nice, and built up nice. The very core (a very small fraction) of the area is what makes the whole region look bad. The town is worth saving.

Ooops, actually meant Harry Ferguson, not Massy harris. Anyway my Dad as a '52 Harry Ferg. with a 60" mower in the back.

And that's what scares me the most. Sounds like the 60's all over again when the Japanese company's used Detroit funded dealerships to take a foothold in the country.