Z-06

+1. Yup, they modified to meet the US crash standards.

Yeah, those bitches are insane. They literally get you for going 7 over the speed limit. I think the system by which people get the licenses should be overhauled. Getting license is way to easy, like going to the Walmart and getting one.

Scion TC?

Toyota

Shipyard

I think the new Solstice and Sky will be based on the modified Alpha platform. Isn't the MCE for the Kappa due in 2009?

Meter

Yet people will praise their styling saying Toy did a nice integration of design for its SUV and Truck.

P Diddy

I played my chess software which is designed for 64-bit systems on the Vista, on one of our workstations, and you can see the difference. The software "thinks" 30-50% faster than the 32-bit systems. I am waiting for a proper update from Microsoft for the Vista and see which of the RTS games come on D-10X before I jump, till that time my Old Fart will do me a favor. One question for compu heads here. Other than larger Cache, what is the main difference between the Quad Xeons and Core-2 Extreme Quad Processors from Intel? If I decide for a two-CPU Xean Quad cores processors, is it worth it? I can probably get decent Workstation, through our company's program with Dell for about 25% off. The one thing which makes me against buying the Dell is that they hide their advanced BIOS functions from their users, so the ability to overclock is limited.

Another German Vehicle Whore.

Haven't you heard enough from the media about killing brands of GM, and here you are being anticlimactic. Like I said earlier, Chevy Corvette is a car. Not a brand. GM will make a huge mistake if they bring it as a brand. Besides that Chevy dealers will probably harass GM to death for that idea, see how they are having the Lambdas. They will certainly not let an integral car to get cut off from their profits. Corvette is one of their customer attractors. Making a new brand means investing into many more things, other than R&D or just vehicles. I think it just does not make business sense, given the current state of proposition GM is in.

Dave McLellan rightly said, the cost of R&D is the same for front or rear engined vehicles. Why not make them both and let the market decide it. As a die hard Chevy Corvette fan and a Z06 owner, I do not think Corvette should be a separate brand.

Were those cars that got blown up Toys? :AH-HA_wink:

Now that is an uncharted territory, where GM can test its waters. A $60k mid-engined machine, which can blow the snobs from old world which cost at least twice as much. With Audi R8, and MB as well as BMW in plans for a mid-engined cars, it may be an all out war. Imagine how much fun it will it be if Chevy Vette responds to them with vengeance. If highly successful it will occupy a nice niche like the regular Corvette, a class of its own.

Did the owner keep it on the eggs to hatch them? I mean 1200 miles, that is like 0.12 mile/day over those years. Or may be the owner was too anal to make it dirty, so he doive to the edge of the driveway and put it back in the garage everyday. That will make those 1200 miles plausible.

Your Father's truck gets a 5-star crash safety rating and runs 300K miles without the engine falling apart. You are right it is not your Father's truck.

Yeah. GM needs some kick in the ass commercials. It would be nice if they turn the "Not your father's truck" around onto Toy.

Herr PCs. Es ist sehr traurig, von Ihrem Kummer zu hören. Ich hoffe, dass Sie stark und fröhlich haariger Herr bleiben, den wir hier wissen.

Japanese and English words saying Caution?

Credulous

While, I do not doubt your numbers, I fail to see where that $15k price for the LS7 comes from. I do not think labor plays that important role in the price. It is the gizmos like the dry sump, titanium blocks, which makes the engine expensive. The actual difference between robotized engine manufacturing and human-made is 1. its novice and rarity (to show I am different) and 2. its precision and care, which the modern machines cannot match. It is the second reason why all the Formula-1 engines and most of the race car engines are hand built. Although the price will do rise for a hand built engine, it will not certainly rise beyond twice the conventional engine. It is not the Engine which makes Z06 about $20k more expensive to the bread and butter but these reasons: a. Its aerodynamics. b. Its suspension and weight saving measures. c. Chevy did some market research by asking then existing C5 Z6 owners and they knew given the power and dynamics people would be willing to pay that $70K price. In fact people were willing to pay more, that is why you saw a jump of $5k in its price in Z06's second MY i.e. 2007. d. Co-development with the C6-R. You gotta remember that GM was in a not so good financial state when Z06 was under research and development. Racing never gives back money other than publicity especially Le-Mans type, Chevy "intelligently" payed for the development of C6-R through LS7 and Z06. e. With high price rise, Chevy was testing waters for the upcoming Blue Devil. Although I cannot verify the point e. Points a-d can be easily found in magazine articles. I disagree with you with regards to the AMG engine. AMG blows trumpets for their hand built engines. Here is something from the Horse's Mouth:UNIQUE, HIGH-PRECISION CRAFTSMANSHIP From the time of our company' s founding in 1967, every AMG engine has been manufactured with the philosophy "one man, one engine" in mind at the heart of every AMG is the work of a single engineer, from start to finish. That philosophy continues today, and informs everything we do. At our engine factory at Affalterbach, which was opened in 2002 to commemorate the company's 35th anniversary, our highly-trained team of employees turns out approximately 100 AMG engines for different vehicle models every day. The production process is configured for maximum flexibility, allowing smooth rescheduling of production between the various engines in line with fluctuating demand. An important feature of our engine factory is that all the different functional sectors are grouped together under one roof. The resulting short distances and optimized processes create improved working conditions for all employees. State-of-the-art logistics underpin a highly flexible and efficient production process. As soon as assembly of an engine has been completed, an engineer performs function tests at the "cold-testing" station, using simulated resistances and pressures. The AMG engines are then automatically transported by lift from the ground floor to a high-bay storage facility on the upper story of the building, with space for more than 1,000 engines. Inline with the same argument, people will then cross-shop M3 and the M5. My point is, Pontiac should try different approach. If they want to be envisioned as Sporty Brand, they should be Giant Killers. Dimensionally M5 and G8 LS7 will sit squat with each other, the only difference will be the price. It is the same way how the car magazines pitted Dodge Magnum SRT8 with the E55 AMG Wagon. Are people going to cross-shop them? No. But imagine bragging rights Dodge would have had, had they not been under the same umbrella of Diamler. Absolutely FOG. I could not have said it better. When a novice wrestler starts calling shots against a virtuoso, people start paying attention. As most of us know, not many people are in-depth with automobile industry. Their knowledge goes to the vadose level instead of deep artesian aquifer. If Pontiac uses this heuristic knowledge, they will not necessary get cross-shoppers of M5 into their doors, but those lame ducks who would have ended up with a 335i or a IS350 will definitely look for a M5 beater for that price. Northie, I am not trying to berate you, but you sounded like Grandpa Flint. When Z06 was out people were saying who will buy a $70K Chevy, yet all the 2008 production is sold, which is the third year in a row for that car. How can Pontiac really know if they have a $45K market if they do not make a very good, limited numbers car, with an exotic engine and market it good. Why LS7 should be there? Because it is a Corvette Z06 engine. I have seen many people bragging about the Gen-1 CTS-V saying that it has a Corvette engine. You gotta agree there is something in that name which brings fear, respect and awe in people. Well Said Camino.

I think there is nothing wrong with G8 with LS7 coexisting with the CTS-V. For one this will bring the cost of the LS-7 down. CTS-V and the G8 will me enamored by different people. If MB can successfully whore the 6.2L engine in everything that moves in their lineup, LS7, is not a bad choice at all. Personally, I think the G8 will be more of a M5 fighter than the CTS-V.