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Uber had 6.9 billion rides in 2019. What if half that many get done by a driverless Tesla at $20 per ride, that is $70 billion of revenue for them. Subscription programs failed because they cost too much and the car isn’t shared. A driverless car could serve 5-10 people per day, meaning it could be cheaper to be driven around in a Model S than to buy a Chevy Trax.
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But a company like Lucid, that will be lucky to sell 10k vehicles a year, is worth more than Ford selling 4 million a year. If the Mach-E is positive influence on share price, and even if you say the Mach-E is just as impactful to investors as the Lucid Air is, then the rest of Ford Motor Company has a negative value. I think GM will dive in hard on EV's, they have said that is their mission, that is what investors want, that is what they are going to do. This will push the price of cars up, will probably reduce sales, I don't know if consumers want a flood of EV's, but that is what they are going to build. In reference to the Corvette, I predict the C8 will be the last Corvette with a gas engine. Also Tesla will not be easy to beat. Amazon barely turned profit from 1996 to 2016, and yet they are the most valuable company in the world now. I actually don't think Tesla needs to turn much profit, as long as they aren't sustaining losses, investors will buy. Tesla will be able to do more in self drive, ride share, subscriptions, selling insurance, etc that GM and Ford won't get into. GM and Ford sell a product get revenue once and it is over, Tesla will find ways to monetize a vehicle for years and have higher revenue streams.
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Sure it is cocktails and dreams. But CEO's of most companies are compensated in stock, and get bonuses based on stock price gains. 10% of Marry Barra's pay is salary, 90% is stock and bonus, so what is her top priority? Drive the stock price. She got $15.6 million in stock in 2019, if that stock price goes up, her net worth goes up. Investors don't care about ICE vehicles, they want EV's and self driving. Case in point, Lucid Motors is expected to be worth $57 billion at their IPO, while they haven't even sold (or at least not delivered) a single car yet. Meanwhile Ford is worth $49 billion, because Ford is the past, not the future, and investors put money on the future.
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They have to say that and aim for it, because GM could sell 3 million gas Silverados and Escalades this year and their stock price won't even move. If they sell EV's investors will come and drive the stock price. Electric is all investors care about, see Tesla as an example, they could go 10 more years without a profit and still be worth 20 times what Ford or GM are worth as a company. I agree that it is ambitious, I am not sure where the sales will come from either. Unless GM prices the EV Silverado the same as the gas Silverado and takes a loss on every one of them in the name of building stock price. GM could take an income loss, use the loopholes in the tax code to basically make it not matter, and draw in investor money by the billions.
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400 miles would be a lot of range for a pickup, I assume that will be a big battery, so that one will probably be pricey. But I imagine they will also have a smaller battery pack at a lower price point also, and there is a market that will pay big money for a pickup. Shareholders want EV's so car companies are going to build them no matter what.
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Toyota/Lexus leave product on market for a long time, and have a slow development time also. This helps with their reliability and reputation for quality, and thus their resale value. But where it hurts is having stuff like the Tundra without a major redesign since 2007, the Lexus GX hasn't had a big redesign since the day dirt was created, and Lexus hasn't come up with a real 3-row crossover when every other car company has them. They have the trucky LX570, but that is dated as can be and not competitive and they said they are killing the Land Cruiser, so that kills the LX off too. $63k for a Camry V6 powered RX is ridiculous, better to get a German product. I've rode in a current gen RX before, you can feel and hear the Camry-ness coming from the engine, transmission and suspension. It just isn't as refined as a Lexus should be.
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Industry News: FedEx Forward is Green by 2040
smk4565 replied to G. David Felt's topic in Industry News
I am not saying a fly by night start up, it could be any company, Tesla, Stellantis, Daimler, or it could be a Chinese one. My point is that FedEx is going to buy the vehicle that best meets their demands. If the Brightdrop is the best fit, then they'll buy 10,000s of them. But that isn't because it from an American company. -
Industry News: FedEx Forward is Green by 2040
smk4565 replied to G. David Felt's topic in Industry News
They should buy the best vehicle for their needs. That “Americans will/should buy American” is what doomed GM and Ford in the 70s and 80s. If the Japanese made a better car then Americans should buy the Japanese car because it it a better product. Ford and GM thought they could built crap and people would buy it anyway because it was made in USA. If some Chinese company comes out with an Electric delivery van with 25% lower operating cost and 25% better reliability than the Brighthouse then FedEx would be stupid not to buy it and would be hurting their own business not to buy it. It is up to GM to make the best delivery van if they want customers to buy it. -
Industry News: FedEx Forward is Green by 2040
smk4565 replied to G. David Felt's topic in Industry News
I forgot I did read about that. I wonder if FedEx will replace all delivery vehicles with the ev600, but I suppose over 10 years or so GM can meet the demand. -
Industry News: FedEx Forward is Green by 2040
smk4565 replied to G. David Felt's topic in Industry News
I smell a big EV Sprinter order coming. -
Hyundai News:2022 Hyundai Ioniq 5 Kicks Off A New Sub-Brand
smk4565 replied to William Maley's topic in Hyundai
I like the squared off angular DeLorean style look, especially in the front. What I don't get is why it is part hatchback, part SUV. Hatchbacks tend to not sell well in the USA, so I feel like this could suffer like the original Bolt did. The back 1/4 of this vehicle looks odd, needs more of an SUV look there I think.- 36 replies
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Jaguar News: Jaguar's Big Gamble: All-Electric By 2025
smk4565 replied to William Maley's topic in Jaguar
The Bolt just had a price drop. Tesla cut prices too. Battery tech improvements will help get battery cost down. There will be R&D and production cost savings when there is a scalable EV platform that can be used for everything from a Corvette to a Suburban, you just modify the size of the same design. In 2030 EV’s won’t have as bad as a price gap to ICE. And for luxury cars it won’t be noticeable. Jaguars cost Tesla money right now and offer less performance.- 34 replies
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Jaguar News: Jaguar's Big Gamble: All-Electric By 2025
smk4565 replied to William Maley's topic in Jaguar
Not 50% more, prices will level off and be pretty similar.- 34 replies
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Jaguar News: Jaguar's Big Gamble: All-Electric By 2025
smk4565 replied to William Maley's topic in Jaguar
But JLR can't spend R&D dollars on ICE and EV at the same time, they don't have the money to do that. I have also seen estimates that EV will be over 50% market share by 2030. I suspect there won't be a gas powered luxury car in 2030, unless it is like an Acura/Lincoln badge job car. The gas engine can't match the NVH and silent operation off an EV. Also on performance take any V12 super car and it can't match a Tesla. And EV technology is only getting better while emissions restrictions and CAFE are killing V12s and V8s.- 34 replies
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Jaguar News: Jaguar's Big Gamble: All-Electric By 2025
smk4565 replied to William Maley's topic in Jaguar
Moving to EV won't cause a drop in sales, building bad cars will. Electric propulsion is superior to a gasoline drivetrain. Going EV is the right move, but all their competitors will also, so I don't see what changes for Jaguar. The Germans will still build better cars than them.- 34 replies
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But a 2020 E-class doesn’t have an engine from a 2010 C-class. The oldest Mercedes engine right now is the 4.7 turbo V8 in the SL550 which it is in its final year. The next oldest is the 2.0 four that is from 2015 model year and they also just revised it for 2020 model year. The mild hybrid I6 in most Mercedes is from 2019 and the 4.0 V8 2016 and that also just got a redo and mild hybrid added.
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I don't like when Cadillac uses Chevrolet switchgear or sells a $60k XT6 with basically the same V6 a GMC Acadia had 10 years ago. And same goes for Lincoln or Acura that use Ford/Honda interior parts or an Accord V6 in a $55k MDX.
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The naming system and the 400, 500, 600 numbers is all a disaster. For example the Escalade gas and diesel engines have the same torque so they'd have the same number. Also changing naming schemes and throwing model names away every 10 years is not a good idea. That is why stuff like Camry and Corolla sell, those names have been around forever and people are familiar with them. I would guess 60% of the buying public doesn't even know what an XT6 is. They should also go back to word names. If word names are a bad idea then the Escalade name should be dropped immediately and the product changed to XT7. Also no other GM brand does an alpha-numeric naming scheme.
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Jaguar News: Jaguar's Big Gamble: All-Electric By 2025
smk4565 replied to William Maley's topic in Jaguar
Sales wise I mean. Tesla is #4 in sales for premium brands in the USA. The EQE and EQS aren’t half assed, they even built a new factory just for them and the S-class. EQC was half assed.- 34 replies
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Jaguar News: Jaguar's Big Gamble: All-Electric By 2025
smk4565 replied to William Maley's topic in Jaguar
EQC, but that was kind of half baked I think anyway. EQS and EQE are made on a Tesla like chassis while EQA EQB and EQC are batteries put in an ICE platform. They have an EQE SUV in the works but these Mercedes Electric vehicles better be good and have 1,000 hp AMG versions, otherwise Tesla will surpass them like they just surpassed Audi last year (in the USA).- 34 replies
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Jaguar News: Jaguar's Big Gamble: All-Electric By 2025
smk4565 replied to William Maley's topic in Jaguar
Everyone has announced that. They all have to do it because investors want it. And there is probably some fear about being late to the party, because if you miss out on the EV train your company is basically out of business.- 34 replies
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