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We have about 24 hours to go, and we only have 6 entires. I have yet to start on mine, though I know what I'm going to do for it.

I remember a while back someone chopped an Olds front onto it and it looked pretty good. The G6 concept was better than the production version, but it's really pretty similar to the production version if you just take off the big wheels, make it have regular ground clearance, and have a practical roofline.

Opel GT2? I cheated :P

The C-Pillars are way different in the "mystery" pic and the V250. In the V250 it's almost like an Audi/VW C-pillar where there is almost nothing there except glass. The C-Pillar matches the Lucerne's right down to the chrome.

I'm almost positive it's a Lucerne. Compare:

Looks about the same as the Regal here. I think I'd take the LaCrosse, at least on the exterior. The interior looks nice but also looks like it came out of the previous-gen GS.

I don't understand why anyone would spend $250k on an Aston Martin wannabe. You could go buy an Aston Martin or Ferrari for the same price and people would actually know what you bought. If you said "I got a Frisker" they wouldn't have any idea what it was and probably wouldn't care much.

I don't like this much. The rear fascia is pretty cool, but that's about it. The front looks like a cross between an Aston and Maserati wannabe, and the rear overhang is rediculously long. The profile looks pretty dated too.

According to what evok said GM isn't very far behind then. If it takes Toyota 12 months from final approval to get the vehicle to market, then GM is only about 6 months behind. guionM over on CZ28 frequently says that it takes GM about 18 months once a program is officially approved (which sounds like the same thing as a design freeze).

Are you sure they're actually going to do that? I can see them upgrading it, but a totally new vehicle every two years? That'd cost at least $250-300 million/product to do and it'd be every 2 years or so for every product.

This is certainly bad news for GM, and it's a shame that GM can't match Toyota's development time with all the global resources it has. However, I don't know how badly this will hurt GM except when Toyota sees a new market emerging and gets a product out a year after it starts to see the market for the vehicle and GM is left 3 years behind. It's not like Toyota is going to make a 2008 Camry then totally re-do it for 2010 or anything like that. I wonder whether the xB had a lot of it already developed in another Toyota in Japan or something... the FJ Crusier is certainly taking more than a year to get to market.

I think it just means it won't be built in Austrailia.

Reuters / September 15, 2005 DETROIT -- Hyundai Motor Co. Ltd. is recalling 240,000 Elantra sedans in the United States because of a problem with the occupant classification system, according to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. Cars involved in the recall are from the 2004 and 2005 model years, NHTSA said on its Web site on Thursday. The occupant classification system installed in the front passenger seat of the vehicle may mistakenly identify a child seat as an adult passenger, NHTSA said. This may occur if the child seat is installed after an adult has been seated, and could result in the right front airbag or side-impact airbag being deployed in a crash, according to NHTSA.

From TCC GM's vice chairman set out to set the record straight on a variety of issues following the Opel reveal on Tuesday. For one thing, he told reporters, the automaker's new rear-drive Zeta platform "is not dead or cancelled." Well, not exactly. The original version was, indeed, scrapped a few months back because "we did a lot of not-smart things…that didn't make business sense. We accepted the delay." As originally planned, GM's Australian subsidiary, Holden, will play the lead in developing the revised Zeta platform. But it is less and less likely that it will be able to export cars based on Zeta, at least to the United States. The Australian dollar's gain on the U.S. dollar "pretty much cancels your profits margin," Lutz lamented, so "exports to the U.S. don't look real promising at this point." But there will still be opportunities for Holden to ship product to other markets, such as the Middle East .

I think you'll see that design on a lot of GM cars. The Solstice has GM accessory wheels that look like those too.

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Umm your point is totally pointless that you can't go up in posts. You have 10 more posts since you added that. You're the only one that cares? Your pretty damn arrogant if you think you're the only one that cares. If no one else cared, you wouldn't have C&G to bitch on. If no one else cared, why would Josh have spent hundreds of dollars of HIS OWN money on spy shots? If no one else cared, why would Z have spent HOURS making new skins for the site? If no one else cared, why would Fly have contacted the host to find out why the site crashed? If no one else cared, why would I have spent hours making Engine, Transmission, and Assembly Plant PDFs? Actually I think you're the only one that really cares about your goddamn rank and post count. Maybe there are others that care too, but at least they don't come out and bitch about it. It is how it is. If you want everything to be perfect for YOU, go start YOUR OWN forum. If not, deal with it.

No actually it went a little more like this: Original post: "There's a lot of needless and childish post whoring going on in the Lounge, do you think we should see if they stop or turn off the post counts there?" Reply A: "I think we should see if it continues and if it doesn't then we should end the post count in the Lounge. I would be in favor of ending all post counts but then everyone will complain about rankings." And other replies agreed that ending the count would be a good move, so it was ended. And no, I didn't just make that up. That's actually pretty close to what was said. Oh, and you know what the sad thing is? Whoring in the Lounge actually went down because of the change. :rolleyes: :blink: :o

Damn, I totally forgot about closing this. Sorry everyone, I'll post the results tomorrow. Voting is now closed.

It does look pretty good, but something about the taillights is weird. Hopefully the next ION has a hatch variant.

The Euro-market Civic's interior looks much better done and doesn't have the mismatch of colors the US one does. The design still isn't great, but at least it doesn't look like it's made of 1000 different colors. As for the exterior of the 5-door hatch: :puke:

Is that even the same base pic, prototype?

I wouldn't be too worried about your ranking. It's like you can call people who are of a lower ranking names and get away with it while they'd be busted for calling you a name. Everyone here is looked at as equal whether they have 1 post or 1000.

I have a mutt :D Mutt's are definetly the best kind of dogs.

I don't think SUVs will be converts anytime soon. We have so few convertible variants as cars that I doubt they would start making SUV convertibles.