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I don't get this: you don't want Fram because it's paper but you don't want a K&N because it's an oiled filter. I'm trying to think of a 3rd type and am coming up blank.... I can tell you that Fram oil filters are absolute garbage, again revealed by 3rd party extensive testing. They used to be competitive but Fram was bought out & cheapened immediately. Whether that translates to their air filters or not, I don't know. [ Well there are two other air filter types --- the old style oil-bath filters, like the ones used on cars in the 50's & 60's, and still on some trucks. The other is the tri-phase type that are used on off-road equipment and some tractors. This inquirer needs to do a lot more reading---- about the truth in air filters, and why any choice is a compromise, based on his usage.

In your rush to judgement, did you go back and read the 14 page report @ http://home.usadata.net/~jbplock/ISO5011/SPICER.htm Ifyou read that report and still can't come to a conclusion, then maybe you should find another hobby than working on cars! <_< For some reason, the above link does not get you back to the test report-- I've tried it 3 times! Click on the other link from the other thread and that will get you to the test report. (Sorry about that!) 4th time- think I found it! Click on: http://home.usadatanet.net/~jbplock/ISO5011/SPICER.htm

HarleyEarl..... shame on you! You didn't illustrate one of the unique features of the GM full-size vans, passenger doors on BOTH sides. Nobody else has this in full-size vans. Also, on work vans, there are lift-up access tool-box panels on the sides, behind the doors.

I have never heard such a ration of crap in my life, from people who couldn't find there way out of a paper bag! You global warmers bleating that man has caused all this....... you all have a paranoia symptom. First off, TREES give off more CO2 than all the cars in the world! Stop planting trees or any other greenbelt! Go back and stay awake in Science 101. If the temps went up one degree, and a polar ice cap started to melt as the "Chicken Littles" have claimed, the shore lines around the world would be under more than the 20 feet of water that New Orleans saw. Just because you don't hear about who is giving or doing whatever .... doesn't mean it isn't being done! You have been brainwashed too long by propaganda mass media. There is an old adage...... don't confuse me with the facts, my mind is made up! That attitude seems to be running rampant here!

I bought an '80 9C1 at an auction for a friend of mine. It had a single front speaker and a single rear speaker, both on the centerline of the car. My 1981 9C1 had the twin speakers, both front and rear. I never saw a '79, but were the speakers on yours flush with the dash cover & rear parcel shelves, or did they stick up, like after-market? On the ones that I mentioned, the vinyl was perforated & the speakers mounted from the rear! What a PITA!!!

1981 is when the major conversion took place. But there were still exceptions. I think it came down to how much of what hardware they had left! Another triva bit----- although the down-sized "G" body came out in 1978, (formerly the "A" body), they did not convert the interior design to support stereo audio systems until 1981! Look at the dash speaker grill systems. '78- '80 had single center-mount locations. '81 thru '83 had 2 spkr openings at each end of the dash. Last one to use the "G" sedan body ---- Oldmobile Cutlass, up to 1987. El Camino's too, but with some differences. This was still the best size body that GM ever offered as a sedan!----- and the one that they should bring back, IMO! :rolleyes: :(

You guys with all your emotional opinions on front wheel drive vs. rear wheel drive, have all missed the elephant sitting in the refrigerator! EMERGENCY HANDLING !!!!!!! That's what it ultimately is all about! How well does each system react or respond in that unexpected situation. Part of this is, how well trained is the average driver in either system to react CORRECTLY in an emergency! This may start another whole round of opinions, but I would suggest that somebody get an opinion from some of the well-known driving school pros! It boils down to: which system is more forgiving to the mediocre driver, and how many lives can it save? We are talking now about your average daily driver, commuter car now, not a special-use, only-on-sunny-day toy! <_<

Okay Mr. Malibu know-it-all, ocnblu, What year did Chevrolet convert the major hardware on the Malibu's to metric? This is one that will frustrate you every time you go to work on one!

Remember, stock air boxes are meant to do two things ----- hold the filter & act as a silencer, so you "don't hear the engine sound!" There is more than one way to skin a cat, so to speak. There are aftermarket filter housings that use stock, paper-type filters, and don't silence the engine! You need to check those out.

According to the post, he will let it go for $11,500! But that is only before the end of September. He claims over 11G's in the engine alone!

Hey boys, drool over this one, and lament the fellows plight --- and then run down and buy it, before somebody else steals it! Go to:http://impalassforum.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get topic;f=12;t=003307 :P

O.K. Sixty8Panther, eat your heart out! This one used to blow away BMW's and M-B C class oponents. It was called the "Stealth Bomber". It's only giveaway was the sound of the exhaust, accompanied by the two big pipes sticking out the rear corners.(Sigh)

One fast reply on washable air filters --- WATCH OUT! On the re-oiling business, some people get carried away, and put too much oil on the filter. This then travels up the airstream onto the MAF, and coats the sensors, sending false readings to the computer, screws it up, and f----s up the running of the car. For those of you who may be technically inclined, and want to get at the whole poop on air filters, go to: http://home.usadatanet.net/~jbplock/ISO5011/SPICER.htm This is a 14 page long test report comparing the different filter types under industry standard tests, and gets rid of the advertising B/S, and tells it like it is! This is not for the guy with the stock paper filter, unless he is planning on changing to some other type. But the info is priceless! I urge you to go and read it....... at least once! :blink:

And if you didn't like that one, maybe this one!

Here's one that some of you may never have seen.

Lots of interesting triva here for you young-timers! DYN, the 215cu.in all-aluminum V-8 cost Buick $200 more, per engine, to manufacture than the cast-iron standard engines? Problem was casting porosity. They ran many test stations during the manufacturing process, using air gaging, but could not detect until sometimes the engine was 98% completed! The state-of-the-art in aluminum casting technology was not what it is today! When they decided to go back to a cast-iron block with aluminum heads, in 1964, they sold this engine and its' tooling to British Leyland for the Rover. That's also when they came out with the first V-6's! The all-aluminum engine was also used by Oldsmobile and Pontiac, but each added their own twists. Oldsmobile did their own head design, changing from Buicks' 5-bolt around each cylinder to a 6-bolt pattern. It improved the reliability against blowing head gaskets, but Buick still had a better combustion chamber design. However, the hot-rod boys preferred the improved sealing of the Olds version. Lance Reventlow, in building his 2nd-generation Scarab sports cars chose to use the Olds version for his powerplant, but punched it out to 250 cubes, and it put out 325hp! In the Pontiac version used in the Tempest, they chose to put the trans in the back, by the differential, and connected it to the engine with a flex-curved driveshaft! There was a lot of innovation going on then. I wish the General had the balls to do it again, but I think the Nader lawsuit put the fear of something in their pants! :(

On second thought.......... Maybe that lower panel at the license plate didn't move down, at least not appearing to be able to do so, in the pic posted, HarleyEarl.

You are stretching my memory HarleyEarl! I did not own one, but as I recall, the engine cover was like in a Volkswagen Type 3 Hatchback. That is, a hinged cover panel that was the load floor. However, look at the pic you posted. That small panel where the rear license is located was a hinged service panel that dropped down(hinged at the bottom). I don't think you could do much thru it, other than look, because all the dipsticks came out vertically! And yes, if you had engine trouble, everything on the rear load floor had to come out to gain engine access!

Since I had jogged the memory bones in looking at some of these posts, Iwent searching and found an excellent history referance at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_Corvair BUT, it has one glaring, big boo-boo, that I didn't know how to fix. It did an eye-poke on the heater box design, and compared to VW, Porsche,etc., commenting about air-cooled engine heaters. What it missed was, ....... on my 1960 Corvair 700 coupe, I had a GAS heater, in the front truck that would melt shoe-leather! It ran off of gas from the car's regular gas tank, and you could run it with the engine shut off, so you could pre-heat the car, or leave it running when you were parked with your girl-friend. (heh-heh). This heater was made by South-Wind, who also made gas heaters for Volkswagens at the time. I had one of them in my 1969 VW sunroof beetle. Also did not mention a feature that we loved. In the up-scale coupes, the rear seat-back could fold down flat, and turn the whole back-end of the car into a small bed, or table or whatever! If you could get it past the front seat back, you could have sat an elephant in the back! (just kidding, a little) We had small kids when we had ours, and we could put a fold-down stroller and a kids carrier-bed, along with a cooler. Who needed a station-wagon? :rolleyes:

Oh yeah, and another feature that was on the pick-up was, it had a side tailgate, on the right side that lowered to the ground. This was called,...... a Rampside pick-up! Too bad the pics above did not show this feature.

The passenger version of the van style was called the Greenbriar. Maybe HarleyEarl can come up with a pic. And the there was also a sedan stationwagon variety called the Lakewood. Don't have a pick of that one either. I'm sure someone can find it. :rolleyes:

Near heard or saw one with 3-on-the-floor. I've seen three-on-the-tree. Was it an RPO? Maybe an SEO, for the military? Don't have a clue. :unsure:

See, I told ya............

Don't believe me? Check this out!

If you guys haven't seen it, this is the Buick being made by Holden for the China market. They got this, and we got the LaCrosse! I'm not showing it, but I have the pic showing dual DVD viewers in the back of the front seat headrests! Oh those poor Chinese............... :(