Paolino

If priced right, I'd actually consider something like this.

I love it!  Not a fan of the color, but I love the style.

That's great news... did I miss the news about Chrysler?  Are they really a 1-vehicle show (I don't consider the dead 300 or the fact that they have the Pacifica and Pacifica plug-in as 2 vehicles) or is something else coming?

12 hours ago, riviera74 said:

Get the best LaCrosse you can afford.  Seriously.

Well, that is a confusing situation.  There's a CPO 2018 Avenir and 2 Premiers that have my attention, but even though I can afford them, the rational side of me says, "You should prob just get the Essence... or why not that cheap 2016 Sport Touring with only 15K miles on it... that's a steal!"  I also have to really drive the new one because I need to see if I would be able to 1) get in/out easily since I'm tall and the rooflines are low, and 2) if I can tolerate the start/stop.  Supposedly it's good, but having had POS cars while in college, there's that anxiety you get when you feel the car has "stalled".

Just now, Drew Dowdell said:

Get the LaX then

That's probably what will happen.  I am just then stuck between 3 different LaCrosses

7 minutes ago, Drew Dowdell said:

I've grown to accept it.  I really like the tail end.  Yeah, I know the Camry is the same V6, it just doesn't have as nice an interior as the Avalon and I know you like the lux of your Genesis. 

I do but honestly, it's the way the car drives that puts me off with the Genesis.  The LaCrosse although older is smoother than my Genesis... the Gen drives sportier, which I can understand people want... I want the opposite.  The Avalon, well, I guess I'd have to get the upper trims to really appreciate the interior and I was trying to keep the price down a little.  I love the top interior trim of the Avalon (even if it has the center stack I'm not a fan of)

Just now, Drew Dowdell said:

Really? I'm surprised.  The Avalon is one of my guilty pleasures and it is way faster than its HP numbers would suggest. 

You don't think the grille is too big?  And the Camry is the same V6 and I've heard the same things about its speed.

36 minutes ago, Drew Dowdell said:

At least go with an Avalon if you're going Toyota.

I can't get on board with the interior or exterior of the Avalon.  The grille is way too big and I hate the center stack.

My Genesis lease is up in August and I've been giving great thought to my next move... purchase a CPO LaCrosse (which is most-likely what I'll do), or, and I'm ashamed to admit this... get a new Camry XLE V6.

Cool idea, but I can't fathom it working by me... the roads are too congested to affect things negatively.

15 minutes ago, Drew Dowdell said:

Great! Now start building the $35k base model you promised.

Yeah... my friend wasn't thrilled about that, but nonetheless, he shelled out the money, like Tesla banked on.

I liked the SRX more than the XT5... it's not an ugly vehicle, but it's uninspiring with a bland interior, in my opinion.  The problem is, rather than building on that, they're releasing a bigger version.  What's Cadillac's ultimate goal now?  And if they're changing it, do we have to change the names of the vehicles yet again?

This is extremely boring!

Interesting... I like it.

For a daily commuter, this looks great.

I think it looks great.

I'm so unexcited about this.. granted this doesn't cater to me, but nothing at all made me think, "Wow!"

On 9/24/2018 at 11:29 AM, Drew Dowdell said:

Na, they're trying to make Alfa into a sexy Italian built to fight Germans on the 'Ring..... an Electric mini-van isn't the way to do that. 

That's right, because Mercedes would never build a minivan... they'd make their "Sports Activity Vehicle"...

Is this even necessary... like the only thing that makes it relevant to today seems to be the EV part... but you can do that in so many other ways.  It's a shame Chrysler is going to have no sedans left... hard to think of Chrysler as a "carless" company... my earliest memories of relatives vehicles were Plymouth, Chrysler, Dodge.  Hell, I was taken home from the hospital in a Plymouth and burned my legs as a toddler on black vinyl seats in the summer.

I looked at the order guide and there are things that just boggle my mind.  Avenir is supposed to be posh, no?  You can't get massaging seats in the Regal Avenir... but you can on the GS.  You can't get ventilated seats in the Avenir.  There is only noise-canceling on Regals with AWD.  It gets some safety equipment that is standard on a Yaris.

https://www.buick.com/avenir?socid=sf194625100_Buick United States_FB_Page%3A Buick_31072018

If you scroll down a little, voila, there's the Regal Avenir.  I really do wish they put just a little bit more into the Avenir line.

I actually like it... except for the front.  Interior design I'm not a huge fan of, but there are elements like the wood, screens, ambient lighting, that would make me look past the design.

This will sell well I feel.  Wonder what pricing will be.

Love it!

8 hours ago, Drew Dowdell said:

What is it about them that you don't like?

I absolutely can't get on board with the styling.  The current ones are better than the 2000s, but I haven't liked its styling since the mid/late 90s depending on the model.