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Damned if you Do Damned if you Don't Isn't this the same place everybody screams about bastardizing platforms over too many brands. As someone who has actually driven an Acadia, over two hundred miles (eat your hearts out) I can tell you that it is 1) Not too big, but just right 2) Is a wonderful vehicle in fact the best vehicle GM has ever brought out into a new segment (C5 included) 3) The sliding 2nd row bench seats are amazing and will end the fold into the floor hand wringing 4) Kick Sienna and Odyssey right in the proverbial crown jewels. 5) The 3.6 with six speed auto gets the same fuel efficiency as the Sienna and the Odyssey. Why cancel the vans, cause we don't need em with the Acadia and Enclave. Good Luck to Pontiac, Buick GMC Sales Team and the Saturn Sales Team. Show everyone at GM that they don't need to spread a platform thinnly over five brands when it can be done with two. For the knuckleheads, the platform was engineered for sliding doors, if they are required how long could it possibly take to put then on, 5 or 6 months tops. The space for the third row standard bench is cavernous. Stop crying/look up the specs and you will find that the Acadia and the Outlook are going to sell so strongly the doors will not be an issue for at least two years.

Those vehicles show up on the GMCL allotment report because the same model table that drives allotment and locator is used by the GMLAAM for some of their systems. They ain't coming anytime soon.

I've been with GM since 1990, 1984 if you count summers, it seems to me that GM is a hell of alot different today then it was in 2002, its vastly different than 1997 and just a completely different company than it was in 1991. Now I'm not sure if the change was in me or in the company. But I do know this. The fundamental stumbling blocks we face today where planted during the 80's. Bad labor contracts(jobs bank) and bad product decisions(w-series) that have hamstrung us through the years. For those of you kicking Rick remember he had a lot to do with Jack Smith's turn around of GM in the 90's with the GMT800 series. He approved the Cadillac turnaround. He also hired Zarella, and did the Fiat deal. Win some, lose some. There is nobody that can steer GM through the next 18 months better than Rick. If GM is to survive Delphi needs to be settled and the jobs bank has be closed. So simple, so difficult. Any of you geniuses think you can handle Shoemaker, the Soldiers of Solidarity, the SEC, Standard and Poors, Cerberus Capital and Toyota ? I didn't think so...

At Delphi they are making 27 plus benefits, Miller offers 10 plus some benefits, industry average is 16 to 17 plus some benefits for parts makers... Prediction: last minute settlement for 16 to 17 with an incredibly complicated statement on the benefit package which no one will understand till long after it is approved. The UAW leadership lives through this one only to face GM in 07 for the rest of the marbles.

Carbiz, I've read enough of your posts and you don't talk for the majority of anybody in Canada. I get to talk to a lot of salespeople at some very good dealerships and quite frankly selling 0 for 60 is not what they want to be doing. Selling the car on its' merits at a competitive sticker is what they want. FYI read the Star on the weekend those Oxygen masks must need to be in good supply at every other dealershiop in the country as well. We don't get to right the rules but we do have to play by them, you may not like it but it is reality. GM Canada has had a holiday push for over 12 years. You complain about those parts of this program that don't exactly line up with the shortest path between you and your flat. As this is a PUBLIC forum the Next time you post could you think twice about wether you are building up others perception of the Salesperson profession or tearing off another strip ?

The interest on the loan is tax deductible while the imputted opportunity loss (that's a financial theory term) is not. It is a sound financial structure.

Think that same car (pursuit coupe purple) was at Gus Brown's Pontiac Buick in Whitby today. I saw the car parked out front, the metal shoes looked great and it was parked next to a G6 coupe, they looked like they belonged together. Now the pontiacs in canada can go to town with that car and combined the two franchises Chevrolet and Pontiac Buick GMC can knock Honda Dealers back on their asses as they struggle with their over priced new civics.