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Rumorpile: Ferrari To Supply Engines To Alfa Romeo, Lancia, & Maserati

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William Maley

Editor/Reporter - CheersandGears.com

June 6, 2012

According to an Italian automotive news site, Ferrari will develop and build two new engines that will be fitted under the hood of upcoming Alfa Romeo, Lancia, and Maserati models.

Sources say the two engines will be a be a twin-turbocharged V6 producing a max of 450 HP and a naturally-aspirated V8 exceeding 500 HP. Both engines are part of a a €50 million ($62 million) investment made by Fiat and will be built on a new assembly line in Italy.

Vehicles that will use this engine include Maserati’s upcoming SUV and mid-size luxury sedan, as well as Alfa and Lancia’s new flagship sedans.

Source: Left Lane News

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G. David Felt

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June 6, 201214 yr

Sounds Nice, but lets get to the meat and potatoes of the issue.

You can have all the horse power in the world but what is the Torque???? Little bity torque does not do much even with a bunch of power.

Not a fan of engines that rev and have horsepower but no torque!

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Drew Dowdell replied to TaurusSHO's topic in The Lounge

Yep. And I think they got the energy density a little higher than Tesla's. Not a huge jump, but enough to matter and bring the vehicles over the 300 mile range mark will still keeping battery size in check.
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ccap41 replied to TaurusSHO's topic in The Lounge

I believe Ford's new platform and mid-size/compact truck are supposed to be LFP chemistry. It's good to know their degradation curve are even better for the consumer.
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Drew Dowdell replied to TaurusSHO's topic in The Lounge

The concern is also largely going to disappear in the emerging generation of batteries. LFP chemistry (available in some Teslas and supposed to be coming in Hyundai/Kia/Genesis soon) have degredation curves that far exceed a vehicle lifetime. We're talking over a million miles before the batteries reach 80% of design capacity. The downside of LFP is they don't have the energy density that standard EV batteries (NMC) have, meaning you either have to be comfortable with less range or an even bigger battery pack. GM has LMR batteries on the way also. These are a medium point between standard EV batteries an LFP. They have 30% plus more energy density than LFPs. There hasn't been extensive degredation testing of this chemistry yet, but it is expected to be well above NMC and closer to LFP. Even if its 500k miles plus instead of 1 millon, it is functionally the same as LFP since so few cars reach that mileage anyway. What's interesting is that LMR and LFP could make the pursuit of super-capacitors obsolete. The only advantage super capacitors would have is rapid charging and possibly weight, but at the speeds we have today with EV charging, it might not be worth the cost for a technology that multiple automakers are struggling to bring to market.
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ccap41 replied to TaurusSHO's topic in The Lounge

I'm not trying to dispute that, at all. I know this. I should have used different numbers so you wouldn't have jumped to the conclusion that I'm expecting a 50% degradation. That's mostly what I expected, but didn't know the science behind batteries and/or charging. Thank you!
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Drew Dowdell replied to TaurusSHO's topic in The Lounge

Yeah, it was in the news a lot in the past year because a certain segment was saying it was proof that EVs weren't the way forward. GM spent a billion or so rebuilding that plant.
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G. David Felt replied to TaurusSHO's topic in The Lounge

Cool had not heard that they had rebuilt the plant. Agree that until the engines are in the wild, it will be interesting to see how they do. My own experience with the 5.7L V8 that was in my 1994 GMC Suburban was awesome, solid engine even after I bored it out into a 402 mean machine. Would love to have that Suburban with an AWD EV powertrain.
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Drew Dowdell replied to TaurusSHO's topic in The Lounge

They rebuilt the towanda plant almost from the ground up for these engines. I’ll reserve judgement for now.
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