• 2018 Ford Expedition Gains Off-Road Package


    • The FX4 Off-Road package returns to the Expedition after a 13 year hiatus.


    While popular on the Ford F-150, the FX4 package has been absent from the Ford Expedition option list since 2004.  Ford is bringing it back for their all-new 2018 Ford Expedition

    While the Expedition FX4 is intended to do the rock crawling like the Ford Raptor, the addition of the FX4 does make Ford's biggest family hauler more off-road capable, something Ford claims over 20 percent of Expedition drivers do. 

    The Expedition FX4 will start with a standard issue Expedition in a 4x4 configuration with a 10-speed automatic and twin-turbo V6 producing 375 HP @ 5000 rpm and 470 lb-ft @ 3500 rpm.  On top of that, the FX4 package will add a electronic limited-slip rear differential with a shorter 3.73:1 gear ratio, stiffer off-road tuned shocks, all-terrain tires, seven skid plates including one dedicated to protecting the turbo intercooler from ingesting sand, updated approach angles, special 18" wheels, chrome running boards, and rubber floor liners. 

    The Expedition's Terrain Management System available on other trims is included with the FX4 and allows drivers to select seven different modes depending on the traction conditions outside the vehicle. Properly equipped, the 2018 Expedition FX4 can tow up to 9,300 lbs.

    The Expedition will be built at Ford's Louisville Kentucky plant and will go on sale this fall. 

    Source: Ford Media (Ford Press release on page 2), Pictures Courtesy of Ford


    ALL-NEW 2018 EXPEDITION FX4 IS THE MOST OFF-ROAD-CAPABLE EXPEDITION EVER

    • All-new Ford Expedition with new FX4 Off-Road Package adds technology and 4x4 hardware to make this family SUV even more capable on trails and unpaved surfaces  
    • Expedition FX4 Off-Road Package standard equipment includes off-road-tuned shocks, all-new electronic limited-slip rear differential, skid plates, side steps and FX4 badging
    • New Terrain Management System enables the driver to select modes to optimize driving dynamics to environmental conditions – from snow to mud, sand and more

    DEARBORN, Mich., June 16, 2017 – For the more than 20 percent of Expedition owners that use their SUV for off-road adventure, Ford introduces the all-new 2018 Expedition FX4 Off-Road Package, making this the most off-road-capable Expedition ever.

    “The FX4 Off-Road package delivers off-road driving confidence,” said Mike Kipley, Expedition vehicle engineering manager. “The technology we’re using works to adapt to different driving conditions so customers can enjoy the adventure without worry.”

    Expedition’s all-new high-strength, aluminum-alloy body and redesigned high-strength steel frame form the foundation for its off-road and towing capabilities. The use of advanced materials enabled engineers to save up to 300 pounds, with much of the savings reinvested to offer customers more technology and features than ever before.

    FX4 Off-Road Package includes:

    • Patented electronic limited-slip rear differential to help improve off-road performance in low-traction situations by automatically varying power output side-to-side, depending on which wheels need extra traction. With 3.73:1 gearing, the electronic limited-slip rear differential also improves towing performance and capability
    • Off-road-tuned shocks more stiffly tuned to keep wheels in contact with the road
    • All-terrain tires with thicker sidewalls to maintain a smooth ride while delivering the traction needed over rough terrain
    • Seven different skid plates that serve as underbody armor and protect critical areas. They include a new sand shield to protect the turbocharger intercoolers from getting clogged when driving through tall berms in sand dunes, plus steel plates to protect steering gear, engine, transmission and transfer case and a full-length guard for the fuel tank. To help climb over tall or steep obstacles, the chin spoiler beneath the front bumper has been shortened to improve approach angles
    • Unique 18-inch Magnetic Metallic-painted cast-aluminum wheels
    • Chrome running boards
    • FX4 badging on the liftgate and front fender
    • New rubber floor liners featuring deep side sills that can be removed and cleaned of any mud, sand or water that gets dragged in on family adventures

    Expedition’s all-new easy-to-use Terrain Management System™ lets FX4 customers select from seven special drive modes that help Expedition automatically adapt to different road conditions. This includes normal for around town driving, sport for more spirited trips, tow/haul for improved towing and hauling performance, eco for enhanced fuel economy, grass/gravel/snow for loose terrain, sand for low traction situations and mud/rut for uneven surfaces. Expedition FX4 drivers also can manually select either 2WD or 4WD modes in a given drive mode, depending on their preferences and terrain.

    The all-new Expedition provides generous space, connectivity and smart new technology. The Expedition FX4 Off-Road Package has a powerful 3.5-liter EcoBoost® engine, rated at 375 horsepower and 470 lb.-ft. of torque, plus standard Auto Start-Stop, an all-new 10-speed transmission and available best-in-class towing of 9,300 pounds.

    The all-new Expedition’s roomy, flexible interior offers seating for up to eight people with a wide cargo area to hold their gear, depending on cargo weight and load distribution. Expedition features a second-row seat with tip-and-slide functionality – providing easy access to the third row without the need to first remove a child safety seat. Once in the third row, even adults will appreciate more legroom and reclining seats.

    The all-new Expedition lineup, including the FX4 Off-Road Package, goes on sale this fall.



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    While the new Expy is much improved and much needed over the previous dinosaur, the more I see the profile, the more I see a Tahoe with a different nose. There is simply no denying the similarities. 

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    45 minutes ago, Guest AsianPersuasian said:

    I see Land Rover.  Tahoe?  Not at all.

    Ex C&G member you are smoking way too much! There is nothing of Land Rover in this new Ford. Truly Tahoe, Ford is paying the ultimate compliment as they see the winning formula and have copied it and nothing wrong with that.

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    5 hours ago, surreal1272 said:

    Other than some subtle design cues, like the wheel wells, it borrows heavily from the Tahoe. 

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    The Yukon is even closer with the blacked out d-pillar.  If I shaved off the tail lights, badge, and headlights, the general consumer wouldn't be able to tell the difference between the two from the side profiles.  That said, I think the Expedition has the nicest looking grille area compared to the GMC and Chevy. 

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    Expedition has no resemblance to the Range Rover beyond sharing the standard SUV 2-box design.  The Range Rover has a proportionally lower hood with a proportionally larger greenhouse.  It makes the RR look less bulky than the big Americans. The RR has a more raked rear window, plus the upsweep from the rear tire to the rear bumper. 

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    The 2018 Expedition is a yuuuge improvement over the outgoing model, but comparing it to a Range Rover is about as credible as this.

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    10 hours ago, surreal1272 said:

    While the new Expy is much improved and much needed over the previous dinosaur, the more I see the profile, the more I see a Tahoe with a different nose. There is simply no denying the similarities. 

    I agree completely.

    7 hours ago, Drew Dowdell said:

    The Yukon is even closer with the blacked out d-pillar.  If I shaved off the tail lights, badge, and headlights, the general consumer wouldn't be able to tell the difference between the two from the side profiles.  That said, I think the Expedition has the nicest looking grille area compared to the GMC and Chevy. 

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    Expedition has no resemblance to the Range Rover beyond sharing the standard SUV 2-box design.  The Range Rover has a proportionally lower hood with a proportionally larger greenhouse.  It makes the RR look less bulky than the big Americans. The RR has a more raked rear window, plus the upsweep from the rear tire to the rear bumper. 

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    The 2018 Expedition is a yuuuge improvement over the outgoing model, but comparing it to a Range Rover is about as credible as this.

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    Actually the Granada was a really nice car for it's era...but yes...no Benz either...

    9 hours ago, balthazar said:

    I was thinking the front fascia has a lot of similarities with the VW Atlas, just details rearranged.

    The Continued Homogenization of Auto Design.

    Atlas is actually more attractive IMHO.

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    yup-yup, lots of LR in new design, combined with traditional Expedition as well, which I believe started the segment.  Other than a bit of profile, which all SUV's have, sorry, no Tahoe similarity. Zip, zilcho.

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    Suburban was the first.

    Bronco went full size in 1978

    Chevy went full size on the K5 Blazer in 1969

    Dodge went full size on the Ram Charger in 1974.

    If you can't see the striking similarities between the side profiles of the Yukon and Expedition, you need your eyes checked.

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    The Expedition has the most up to date interior right now and personally I think the face of the Ford is most attractive all else being roughly equal (because the rest is equal). My reservations remain about the engine. I'll just need to see how they drive. I really enjoy the drive of the Tahoe/Yukon, they drive smaller than they are.

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    I did say first in segment.  At least from Detroit.  Suburban was sort of it's own segment.

     

    Looks aside, this Ford has the advantage of Aluminum, IRS, and does not rely on a pushrod engine.  One thing is for certain, this should drive completely different than previous old Expedition.  

     

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    First in segment is still wrong. 

    I listed the dates for the Bronco above. If you only want to count the most recent nameplates:

    Expedition: 1997

    Tahoe: 1995

    Yukon: 1991

    Even AMC beat Ford to the segment.

    Jeep Grand Wagoneer: 1963 - 1991

    So no, not even close to first by the Americans. In fact, dead last.

    Then there are the imports:

    Land Cruiser: 1980 (only counting when they got big enough to fall into this class)

    Nissan Armada: 2004

    Lexus LX: 1996

    And for reference in the Luxury market:

    Lincoln Navigator: 1998

    GMC Denali/Cadillac Escalade: 1999

    So for non-lux editions, Ford is dead last among the Americans and second to last when including all imports who are competing.

    For luxury editions, Ford gets a close silver with GM nearly tying them. Bronze if you include the 1994 Range Rover.

    So no, Ford did not lead the way on any variation of this segment no matter which way you slice it.  Not sure why you bother posting such easily disprovable stuff...and yes I know who you are.

    A pushrod V8 is a feature not a bug. It lends itself to compact packaging and excellent power without relying on turbos to feed it. In fuel economy mode, it runs as a 4 cylinder smoothly. It also doesn't need a shield over an intercooler to prevent it from ingesting sand.

    I'm giving the Expedition a fair shake when I get my chance to drive one. I've already said I think it is the most handsome entry at the moment and has a more up to date interior.

    Let's keep it real on the rest please.

     

     

     

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    15 minutes ago, Guest AsianPersuasian said:

    My bad, it was Navigator that was first. Forgot.

    Only if you shuffle the goal posts around. The Grand Wagoneer was considered a luxury product at the time and that was around for a good decade before the Lincoln. First to market under a luxury brand was the Lexus or Land Rover Range Rover depending on how you count based on size.

    By 1998, the idea of a luxury SUV was certainly not new. Acura, Lexus, Infiniti, Oldsmobile, Mercury, Land Rover, AMC/Jeep, Mercedes-Benz all had luxury SUVs on offer of various sizes years prior. The Navigator made waves not for being first, but for it's size, handsome good looks, and immediate adoption by rap stars and sports heros.

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    Navigator was considered first true luxury SUV.  Not my words, I did not pull that remark out of thin air, and I would be happy to provide links if you like.  If you want to contest it, then I can't help you there.

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    Lexus, Infiniti, Land Rover and Mercedes would contest it most certainly. 

    Navigator only the first luxury SUV if you don't count:

    1. Non-American brands

    2. Mid-size luxury SUVs

    3. Luxury offerings by marques that aren't considered "full luxury".

     

    So like I said... Ford and Lincoln were only the first in the segment if you move the goal posts around just right. You can link and quote whomever you want, but the existence of a 1995 Lexus LX450, 1994 Infiniti QX4, 1994 Range Rover Land Rover dispute the notion that the 1998 Navigator was first luxury SUV.  I don't need links to tell me that.

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    30 minutes ago, Guest AsianPersuasian said:

    Navigator was considered first true luxury SUV.  Not my words, I did not pull that remark out of thin air, and I would be happy to provide links if you like.  If you want to contest it, then I can't help you there.

     

     

     

    Somebody else's words too!!! 

    If you wanna troll....troll somewhere else!

     

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    3 hours ago, Guest AsianPersuasian said:

    Navigator was considered first true luxury SUV.  Not my words, I did not pull that remark out of thin air, and I would be happy to provide links if you like.  If you want to contest it, then I can't help you there.

    Irrelevant because even with the refresh everything else is better than the Navigator that segment.

    2 hours ago, oldshurst442 said:

     

     

     

    Somebody else's words too!!! 

    If you wanna troll....troll somewhere else!

     

    Meh...he can preach Ford all he wants, other than the Mustang and the F150...not impressed with Ford right now.

     

    4 hours ago, Drew Dowdell said:

    Only if you shuffle the goal posts around. The Grand Wagoneer was considered a luxury product at the time and that was around for a good decade before the Lincoln. First to market under a luxury brand was the Lexus or Land Rover Range Rover depending on how you count based on size.

    By 1998, the idea of a luxury SUV was certainly not new. Acura, Lexus, Infiniti, Oldsmobile, Mercury, Land Rover, AMC/Jeep, Mercedes-Benz all had luxury SUVs on offer of various sizes years prior. The Navigator made waves not for being first, but for it's size, handsome good looks, and immediate adoption by rap stars and sports heros.

    ...and God awful depreciation.  Around here cash for clunkers found them as frequent visitors to the dead line behind dealership's.

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    12 hours ago, Guest AsianPersuasian said:

    yup-yup, lots of LR in new design, combined with traditional Expedition as well, which I believe started the segment.  Other than a bit of profile, which all SUV's have, sorry, no Tahoe similarity. Zip, zilcho.

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    Nope, nope, nope. Denial can be a powerful thing and in this case, there is a simple cure. I present....

     

     

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    And, as others have pointed out, the Navigator did not "start the segment". Hell the Lexus LX was out two years before that and actually had off road cred that the Navigator (nor the Tahoe/Suburban for that matter) could not touch making it a TRUE luxury SUV.

    10 hours ago, Drew Dowdell said:

    I showed someone who doesn't know much about cars the side profile pics from this thread.  He thought they were the same model, just different years.

    Same here. Again, that denial is a might powerful thing.

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