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It most likely has to do with the fact that a dollar goes farther in Nashville. Nissan probably wants to hire mostly new workers whom they can pay a lot less dollar-wise. SoCal is way more expensive than Nashville. And wages reflect that.

Bingo! GMC is much more white collar than Chevy. GM cannot afford to lose the buyers who just won't buy a Chevy because it is a Chevy. Car snobs like that really do exist, don't ya know :AH-HA_wink:

But making Cadillac a full-line upscale truck manufacturer just diminishes their image. Remember, Before 1998, GMC was the ONLY real upscale truck and SUV manufacturer. Only in the case of the Escalade line does GMC overlap with Cadillac. If/when the SUV/truck shifts (and I think there's a good chance Caddy will be truckless in a decade) GMC will seem a lot more logical. But making the Envoy a Cadillac? Making the Sierra, Savannah and Sonoma Cadillacs? Please...that sounds ridiculous.

Isn't it nice? They are popping up all around sorrority houses and they look GREAT! Felix has one sitting under a little canopie, and I rubberneck everytime I walk by. VW did a great job with it!

Oh...well I was joking, hence the multitude of smilies :rolleyes:

...she didn't dump him. She dumped the OTHER Greek shipping heir, Paris Latsis.

Heh..."We love the police!"

As far as GM is concerned, they were errors. The accounting firm is the one responsible for using deceptive and sneaky accounting "rules." Rules is a huge misnomer in accounting, though. It's more like "practices" because the rules are very bendable.

Just telling you how it can come across sometimes, especially with the near-constant, exaggerated bashing you engage in of GM products. Some (read: quite a bit) is over the top and turns people off. Again, just telling how it all comes across at times. EDIT: Again, I have nothing personal against you; I don't know you. I'm sure you're a great guy. Sometimes your criticism of GM comes across as way harsh and whether intentional or not, sometimes you seem to "name-drop."

That's why I like the Imaj so much...it has a modern reinterpretation of the beautiful bustle back.

I, too, would have preferred a silver finish to the plastic, but hey, I'm not going to nitpick the best-executed Cadillac of the last 25 years.

You brag about your new Corvette, your S500, your BMW X5, and I'm sure I am forgetting some...you and your partner do seem kind of "rich" from statements you make like that. There's nothing wrong with that, and I come from a well-off family, BUT it seems kind of obnoxious to either put on airs then deny you are rich OR to "name-drop" your financial status and then deny you are rich. I do not know you and do not know which is true, but I'm just saying...you kinda give off the impression of having a good deal of money. Again, nothing wrong with it, but don't perpetuate an image on the board and then deny it.

Yup. He's right. Accounting is very subjective, and there are a lot of things firms can do "legitimately" to make themselves look better for investors or worse for tax breaks depending on the situation.

Yea...people get all riled up about things on here...and yet all indications from our insiders point otherwise. If the FBodFather thing has all been one elaborate hoax I will be laughing my ass off. GUARANTEED

Agreed. That sixteen minigrilles forming into one big grille just wows me. I do like the headlight details too. GM got this one right; that's for sure!

Meh I don't think I'm being too critical. Those things should be hidden. Anyway, I prefer the SKY.

It didn't work for JFK either...he was an awful president; he just had the charisma to carry him. He singlehandledly caused the Cuban Missile Crisis and thankfully averted it...but barely.

DAMMIT I'll be on a camping field trip this weekend! Someone post pics and impressions please!

FOG, you are an idiot. Of course the general shape of things will be the same, but look! you CANNOT swap out an Escalade grille and put in a Yukon grille if you wanted to! Pontiacs have NOT had grilles that couldn't be swapped out. The only other GM brand that had this to an extent was Oldsmobile, and only for some models. You wanna argue the tacky vs. successful argument, fine. But that would mean that you would be arguing that RICE isn't tacky because it is popular and lucrative. And before you get all pissy about my calling you an idiot and screaming "personal attack!" you definitely attacked me first by calling me ignorant. Seriously, it isn't that hard to be civil. :rolleyes:

Didn't you watch the preview? She was flirting with her "new son" constantly. Very sexual. Kinda slutty. Very HOT!

Cost of living is a LOT cheaper in Nashville. That, and other operational costs are the reason for the move.

There are only two exterior details that I find "funny": 1) the little chrome flourishes beneath the wreath and crest on the grilles. The strike me as strange. 2) the location of the reverse lamps. I would have preferred them flanking the license plate bracked like in every other Cadillac.

Only "funny" details I don't like are: 1) the little chrome flourishes below the wreath and crest on the grille 2) the location of the reverse lamps. I would have preferred them flanking the license plate bracket like in most Cadillacs.

BTW, thanks, evok, for the edmunds link. Very interesting about the front end... While I do like the new Escalade and gave the exterior an A, I wouldn't have minded an edgier design at all, though this one will probably wear a little better longer than an edgier design. So far my favorite Cadillac is still the SRX, if only the rear quarter panels had been detailed better then it would be perfect.

But those costs are far outweighed by the benefits of keeping GMC around. Buick-Pontiac dealerships need GMC for sales, GMC is marketed as (and in most respects is) an upscale version of Chevrolet. The styling is less aggressive, and the overall image is one of refinement that Chevrolet just does not have. There are huge marketing costs for ANY brand, and GMC is no exception. That said, it helps spread out costs between Chevrolet, HUMMER and Cadillac. Like Mercury to Ford and Lincoln. GMC is very profitable, and GM would be foolish to get rid of it any time soon. I do not doubt that a boneheaded plan to phase out GMC was in place back in 2000 because that's the same time-frame as the boneheaded phase-out of Olds. Dumb dumb dumb. Now granted, GMC could be phased out without the huge costs of Olds due to the fact that GMC has very few (if any?) stand-alone dealerships. But again, it all comes down to two things: volume and consumers. The new Yukon and Tahoe are prime examples of two vehicles, essentially the same (different front clips, rear trim, slight interior modifications), who are marketed to and bought by two very different demographics of consumers. GM would be crazy to abandon this, especially since most GMC owners wouldn't be caught dead in a mechanically-identical Chevy. It really does not cost GM that much to design and manufacture a new front clip, taillight housings and guage cluster faceplate. Certainly nothing close to the 35-55k GMC charges for these vehicles. All those overhead costs I am sure are also minimized by the way GMC is internally set up with Pontiac. Same marketing budget between the two, and a very complementary product lineup. Sorry, I'm not buying it, especially since you yourself have said it would be crazy to get rid of GMC. :rolleyes: