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Wow...I don't know why you started putting hot-button issues into my mouth! I never spoke of such things. If you think that about California, you have no idea what you are talkng about. There is a lot of political diversity in Cali, only someone blind to reality would attempt to argue otherwise. The first red flag that you do not have any idea whatsoever about which you are talking is that you talk about California as if it is all homogenous. Now ANYONE who has been to Cali knows that the state has virtually NO homogeny, ESPECIALLY political homogeny. This is a very politically charged state. Now, you want to start putting words into my mouth, let me make it clear to the board that you are an idiot for doing so: I am against affirmative action. It does nothing but hold Asians back, has little effect on Caucasions, and boosts Blacks and Hispanics. That said, especially in college admissions, Blacks and Hispanics are put at a huge disadvantage because while they might get into certain prestigious colleges based on race, oftentimes the skills they have from HS (the ones that otherwise would NOT have gotten them into this prestigious college) are not adequate for these colleges and they end up on academic probation. This is called the Mismatch Effect and is fairly widely publicized. As for gay marriage, well show me a cogent argument AGAINST gay marriage that is not rooted in a bigotry against homosexuals. I have tried to understand those who disagree with gay marriage, and all I hear is fearmongering and hatred regarding homosexuality, not a cogent, logic-driven argument with some actual reason not to allow it. Because of this, I do tend to classify those against gay marriage as bigots, but maybe I just haven't heard that one, logical argument out there that is devoid of some inherent bigotry. For the record, I am not homosexual, and therefore really do not have any emotional attachment to the issue. So argue away. There is a BIG difference between having religion and being a fanatic. I am a Christian but I do not try to impose my views on everyone I come into contact with. I have my views, and you have your views, and everything is copasetic as long as you don't try to interfere with my beliefs. It's called tolerance and mutual respect. I won't try to convince you of my beliefs and I expect the same courtesy unless one of us inquires the other in a "what would you do and why" kind of situation. As for "public" Christians...I do not know what you mean. If you are referring to political Christians, yes, I believe in the separation of church and state as did our forefathers did (and yes, many were Christians but numerous quotes exist from them reaffirming the need for a separation of EVERY church and the state). Hence, nominating Harriet Miers to the Supreme Court because she is an Evangelical Christian is NOT something that could be supported by me. People who voted for Bush are not dumb hillbillies. I personally think many were uninformed, and recent poll data seems to support this. The Bush campaign used scare tactics, and that got many swing voters suckered in. Also, many people knew what Bush stood for, while Kerry was a complete unknown. I think many people voted for what they knew than chance it on a wildcard. Frankly, I think it is damn impressive that Kerry got 47% of the vote despite only giving a glimmer of his platform during the entire campaign! He received 47% of the vote just by saying, essentially, that he was NOT BUSH. That speaks volumes to me. Volumes.

GM discontinued that option due to low sales and cost reasons. They also discontinued the double rear doors for visibility issues.

I wouldn't even say that...liberals like all kinds of diversity except bigots. The only people I just flat out do not like are those that come across as bigots. Now I guess you could twist that around to say that I am essentially self-loathing since I am bigoted toward bigots, but c'mon, let's not go there. It isn't about the ideology, it is about the intolerance. You can think whatever the hell you want to think as long as you have the decency to a) keep it out of my business and B) not express it when it would deeply offend/hurt a great number of people. Before anyone jumps on the "freedom of speech" bandwagon, there is a little something called tact. You might not like the CEO of a company, but you (should) have the decency not to say so loudly enough for him to hear it when you are two meters away from each other. At least I hope so...

wait...this thing sure as hell looks like a Theta...

Yuck!

Fly, it really isn't that way in California. Are there SOME people? Well yes, those little neo-Nazi pop princesses are from Bakersfield. But in Tennessee there are a LOT of homophobes, a LOT of racists, and a LOT of religious fanatics. I know you're just trying to make peace, but it's obvious you've never been to either place.

Still bland.

My bad. The review stated it was mechanically identical to Equinox and Torrent and praised all three of them for being on Theta.

Grand Vitara is mechanically identical to Equinox or Torrent. So help.

Here's a 1984 promo pic:

TMI BV :o :o :o And check out my edited post to correct my little type you gloated over!

So what were those differences between avian flu and AIDS? Granted one is an STD, but other than that there were a lot of similarities you listed...high rate of mutation...lack of effective treatments...etc AIDS is one tough virus. Technically, a retrovirus, and not because it was big in the 80s. Something to do with the way it replicates...from RNA to DNA I think not sure...For all the talk of how easy it is to contain it, I suggest you go to Africa sometime.

I'd like my old one back... The Iron Fist ...it fits me so well. Fly did a good job coming up with that one last spring. Heh...BV I think I take the title of King of the Sarcasm...but I'll let you borrow it...if you pay me royalties :lol: Seriously BV...how about "Sargasm"? The best of both worlds...haha yes yes pun definitely intended

Registration is free at LA Times. Neil gave a very favorable review to the new Suzuki Grand Vitara right below it.

Heh that's dumb. No way that'll ever happen.

I see no pics

I have a feeling the Suburban/Yukon XL/ESV will have even better proportions that the SWB models. These are truly the best-looking SUVs on the market.

Getting BACK to the Escalade I agree 100%. Money being no object, it would still be my #1 choice. But as you stutely noted, it doesn't really compete with the Escalade anyway. Both are very choice vehicles. I still can't get over the sheer number of details GM put into the exterior of this SUV. If they paid this much attention to detail across their entire lineup, I might actually like the G6, Cobalt, and all the other cheaped out vehicles. *gasp* maybe even the STS!

That quote wasn't even directed at you. It was directed at the multiple posters who made that blatantly erroneous claim. I didn't even notice if you were one of them or not.

Yea I wasn't big on Clinton during his office, but damn I think he did one hell of a job in hindsight.

9-3 got a real makeover. 9-5.....still needs one.

Ever hear about AIDS??? :blink:

No you're right...you don't scoff at people...you chew them out. And then oftentimes you eat some crow a little later while you're at it.

I didn't personally attack you first. An you didn't quote it...because it didn't happen. You claim my "pompous" and "berating" attitude on this site, well what the hell do you think you do? Reading one of your posts is like listening to a homeless person with Tourette's screaming about whatever the FOG rant of the day is. Have you met your new mommy?. Anyone who disagrees with you gets chewed out over every stupid little insignificant detail. Professionalism? Heh. Funny. That's a good one. Seriously, take it to the PMs if you have anything further to say.

I'm not concerned. If I get it I get it, if not then not. I have no control over it so I'm not going to think about it and worry. Worry is like a rocking chair; it gives you something to do but it doesn't take you anywhere.