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For example look at these ratings from 78 I think we can do much better.

Um why 2.5? I mean GM has the 2.0L turbo that can make 290 hp with the GM performance parts module. Im sure if we subtract the turbo they can get it to hit 200 hp. I think GM has hit a time in history where they don't need more displacement to get more power. Besides the 2.5 will be known forever as the iron duke.

I hate to bring up a dead thread,but its relevant to a series 2 3800. When replacing spark plugs should I stay with Delco's or go aftermarket like NGK. I have heard to avoid platinums as they are just a marketing ploy and tend to foul quickly on lower compression engines.

Today GM had some cars in the "pool" out front of the School. They had CTS-V Coupe AT Corvette GS AT Camaro SS MT Cruze LS AT Cruze LTZ AT Escalade Volt Hopefully this is what they have there on Saturday. I was hoping for a Cruze with a 6 speed manual though.

I am going to try and make it but there was a unexpected event that happened this week. If I can make it from Dearborn to Flint in 1.5 hours its possible for me to make the last 15 minutes... If I do I will try to grab some pics.

do they stil use the 3.9L that was in the previous generation malibu SS/maxx SS? that was short lived. It wasn't that bad of a engine but not a vast improvement over a tuned 3.8L

I don't know if many people know of these events but its an awesome thing. They let you take a car around a predefined course with a sales person in the car. Generally its like a test drive with out that nasty dealership taste. I believe it is open to the public. Usually 18 and older only and you have to pass a sobriety check. It will be located at the Kettering University campus in Flint, MI. Although that area has no open roads so I wonder if the course will be lame... There will be at least the Cruze there and the CTS Coupe there. And you will be able to get a ride in the Volt not drive it. I bet there will be a media booth there as well to hand out brochures and such. http://www.kettering.edu/docs/GMRideDrive2.pdf If your close to Flint (first of all, I feel your pain if you live near Flint) then check this out if the weather is nice. At least it is something to due.

Thanks! I added my car to the Garage. I will try to get a picture on of these days. I find that Cars and computers go hand in hand many places. Where would be a good place to post about a GM ride and drive?

Hey guys, I am a computer system admin by day and a advid car fan by night. Currently a college student and drive a beastly Buick LeSabre! Which I might post a topic about in a different thread. I generally like to read about happening things in the auto market and like abstract car fourms rather than mainstream stuff since I like to hear about major things not that Kia is using a different chemical in there craptastic bumpers like some car news/fourms seem to post about. anyway Hello!