fullmoon97

ok at the risk of being right here. im going to call you out on Fiat over all quality. it may not be the best car out there. but it is still in the top ten as quality goes. actually according to KBB its number 2 in MPG and number 8 in HP. and consumer ratings are an 8.6. sure the faux pas here and there but nothing really serious. to take sales in your area and apply it to the entire nation is just silly. now i know i did the same but i also did research. sales are up nation wide 44%. now the fiat sales expectations were outrageous of course but it is doing well for what it is. as far as how cool the car is just watch the video

ugly? i think not. non selling? again i think not i see at least a dozen of these a day. a few people at my school even have them. for what they are they are selling quite nice. but you have to understand the average consumer may not know the name Fiat. they know the big names like ford, dodge, chevy. they also know toyota and honda and the German makes as well. the more informed know even more like kia and scion. but the average consumer who buys a car because they need one may hear fiat and think "oo a new car company". not everyone is knowledgeable on the different car makes. i think the 500 is one of the best looking cars of its size. they can actually make a small car like that look like a car and not like a toy like so many other compacts.

the only place i really see Italian is the interior. the places on the outside that i can kind of see Italian are the CF but that's not a big deal, and the colored brakes. both of those are so small they aren't worth saying. all Italian influence i see is on the interior. and that's mostly because everything is wrapped in the same leather that Ferrari uses. but yes it is still 100% american muscle. because it wasn't Ferrari themselves who designed the interior. it was SRT asking people what they wanted.

i love the cross breeding that was done. it went Italian without getting rid of its american roots. it kept and boosted its power. it has alot of tech options to help with handling. it will be a fantastic car.

if you laugh at a viper you obviously do not. why not laugh at something that is actually ugly like a Nissan Cube.

i LOVE this car. from the outside headlights grill tail lights. the hits of carbon fiber here and there. it is a true sports car. the interior is EXACTLY what i was hoping for when i said they should take a lesson from Ferrari. the 2 tone interior with the sporty accents. the perfect evolution from the 2nd gen. its a very mean and intimidating looking car. and with the massive V-10 that's going in its gonna scream.

gahhh i love it! after seening the teaser of the interior and the shots in the inside line article i am 100% sold on this amazing car

The SRT cross-hairs would most likely be body color. so i highly doubt it is an SRT model. i think the 3.6 guess is correct.

i dont think this is anything. idk what the car is but i highly doubt they would tease the car in this manner

i can vouch for that 700k his 300m is also still in amazing condition.

to want more power is not a bad thing. to criticize the company for making a lesser option is. i stand by this VVT all tests have shown it to be a solid engine. the only test left is the test of time. if i had the money i would most likely get the SRT with the hemi. but in this economy this package for looks, power, handling, and affordability just makes more sense to single person with little money.

i gotta agree with dodge, sure the V8 is nice and all but what if you want a more fuel efficient (yes the 3.6 is pretty fuel efficient) car that still has a decent amount of power. not to mention what if you want a car that is more affordable. the VVT is a GOOD engine. its a new engine, so new that you CAN'T say weather or not it will last. but for me i would go for affordability, looks, and a decent amount of power. the 3.6 puts out a ton more HP then my 3.5 i think the 1st gen intrepid put out about 214 while this 3.6 puts out 305. keeping in mind that the challenger weighs allot more then the intrepid. the V8 is nice for those who need to hear the roar to get off. but not everyone wants a V8 today, the V8 is more of a Luxury to have. the more affordable models have the V6 and people buy those because 1 they have plenty of power, and 2 because they can afford them. i like this model the way it is. sure it would be nice with a 5 speed or even the new 8 speed the dart will have. but this is an every day plain old joe model for those who want what this has. looks, power, and simplicity.

stay outta my shed

i have always liked the little minis.very fun little cars. not sure if i would get one for a DD but it would be a fun little toy to spice up in my spare time. this one is fantastic though. 211 HP is really nice and a little shocking coming from a 1.6. my 3.5 puts out 214. now i know my car weighs allot more that just struck me. IIRC the country man is slightly bigger over all. hmm. maybe i would get one like this for a DD hmmm.

Don't take this the wrong way or anything, but 18mpg out of an Intrepid? I somehow find that number hard to believe. My Challenger always averaged about 24 to 25mpg mixed and it was a heavier car with rather broad-shouldered build. im gonna answer this then im done. your challenger is a 2010 2011 im guessing something in there. my intrepid is a 1997. do you reaize the vast improvements that have been made in fuel mileage in that amount of time? i could care less if u find it hard to believe but my car is old and has issues. i love it to death but i could care less about the mileage it gets because i know its past.

seriously check them out. i didnt know about them till a few days ago. they are REALLY nice looking cars. yea they are more expensive but again its not perfect technology. http://www.teslamotors.com/

have you looked at some of what tesla makes? there 0 to 50s are below 5 seconds. their roadster is 3.7. payload and towing will be easy to figure out once the distance is figured out. and price tag isnt THAT far off. right now the reason they are more expensive is the ammount of money that was put in them. right now electric cars are random swings. but some of those swings have perked the ears of some. right now the charge time for some of these cars is around 4 hours. (which is actually less than i thought) but new battery technology is being worked all the time. with electric cars its not about the car industry improveing this technology they are taking technology that is being made by other companies and trying it out. there are entire companies devoted to longer lasting faster charging batteries and its only a matter of time before they have a 500 mile battery that charges in 3 min.

here is the bottom line. i LOVE my gas guzzleing 18 mpg intrepid. i love this thing in an unhealthy way. but if a better looking, running, cheaper, better CAR came along you bet your sweet bippy id buy it. this car? NO but i am sure there will be one soon enough in what i am certain will be a gas free future. now let me explain why i believe electric will take over. you take a look at the pump lately its 3.63 last time i filled up. they are predicting 5 dollars over the summer, the highest its ever been. if that trend continues as more electric cars become avaliable you can count on them switching over to electric. now maybe YOU wont but the mass consumers will. because its cheaper for them to plug the car into the wall then to go to the pump. now it may take a decade or two but i see electric becoming at least the majority in the future. and beyond that a thing of the past. is it sad to see our loud friends go? yea but things come and go. its just a matter of how soon you adapt.

idk about you but i dont want to die in a Prius. i would actually prefer something more stylish like the fiat. and actually for a such a small car its crash ratings are actually very nice. you have the danger of it being such a small car but its over all crash rating is impressive. and starting at 15,000 with the top line being 22. price isnt bad either.

here is the thing. i like those things too. and we still have them. but we wont always. and thats what you need to grasp, and if im being honest cars dont have unlimited travel anyway. you gotta fill up sometime. so when it comes to electric cars what they need to work on is recharge time. SEE we ARE making progress!!

i dont think its a failure. i personnally would love to have the Abarth. its not bad looking for such a odd car.

ok here is a reality check for you.. there WILL COME A DAY that electric will be the only thing to choose from. either that or some sort of other renewable resource. its gonna happen. you can accept that or not but it will happen. there will be a day when gas cars will be a thing of the past. saying you dont accept that will happen is like saying you dont accept that some day you will die. NOW you can choose to get all pitchforky about it now. or you can accept that its gonna happen and start the more relevant topic of lets make them the best they can be. lets make them something people of all demos wanna buy. personnally there is no reasonably priced electric car on the market that i wanna buy. BUT i know there will come a day that there will be one. having an electric car does not mean the end of the industry it means a shift within the industry. if these cars were such a joke there would not be a mad dash to make the best one. for right now the auto industry is keeping to gas cars as a safty net. they know it works. but some companies are stepping up to the plate and taking some swings. dodge has yet to do this but i do see them possibly starting soon. just let this topic die because honestly if you dont think its gonna happen then you are just in denial over something that wont change much.

if its such a joke why do Auto companies around the world have entire teams devoted to making these cars better? lets face it. when the hybrid first came out this same thing happened because of the shell it was in. not to mention it wasn't really that impressive. now we have hybrids in all shapes, sizes, and they are much better then they were. the problem with these technologies is they aren't perfect. thats why you dont see a mass flood of electric cars out. don't worry gas cars will be majority for another decade or 4. just let the car companies have their fun .

ya know..... i have no issue what so ever with electric cars with todays technology i see a future where electric cars and gas powered cars are competitive. sure you dont have the pleasant roar of a good ol hemi. but isnt that what classics are for? even in a world where electric cars and gas cars compete gas cars will still be made because of that same reason, they may just end up being more expensive. some electric cars can even be competitive in the HP range. but my problem with electric cars is they are so ungodly ugly! now before you go mark down my post there are a few acceptable ones out there. but the majority of electric cars look like poo. i get what they are trying to do "lets look different then the gas cars!" but if you wanna sell electric cars to gas car people MAKE THEM LOOK THE SAME! it seems the trend is to make the car as small and pathetic as possible, which to muscle car fanatics is a big no no. now i personally didnt like THIS car before hand as the spark but this rant was more a general rant LOL

i got a clearer photo posted on SRT facebook. that showed that it is even more of a possibility as you can see the crosshairs are still there the headlights look right. i believe we have a winner