G. David Felt

That is true and it comes from growing up with my dad having an auto repair business and working on crappy European and Asian auto's that had boosted engines and not really ever being impressed with them. The Over Reving High RPM Low Torque engines and yes while from an Engineering standpoint they have gotten better in the 21st century, I would rather have an NA V8 over anything small and boosted even the Silverado Turbo 4 banger. Kinda like the 4-6-8 v8 engine of GM, while the concept is cool, technology was NOT ready for that kind of engine and as such, so many of those engines along with the diesel conversion engines of the late 70's to early 80's I remember helping my dad pull them, throw them in the scrap metal bin and put in a current gas V8 engine. I will say that I would rather have a supercharged V8 over a Turbo or Twin Turbo V8.

Like all of us, this is based on my own observations, the amount of tiny boosted auto's that i see broke down and the poor condition of them after a few years. The Silverado I would never own with a small boosted engine as we were talking small cars, not full size trucks and as you and so many already know, I will not be buying another ICE as BEV will be my next auto's to replace the current ICE I own.

I would still take either of these BEVs over the cars above.

Like the Looks of the Lucid over the others, but being cars, I really could care less. Let me know when they do this with the EV trucks and SUVs.

Looking at multiple threads on poor auto maintenance and this is one common theme: Engine oil – If the engine oil hasn’t been changed for at least 12,000 miles, the oil loses its lubrication benefits and becomes more of a watery substance causing internal friction. This internal friction means that the engine is slowly starting to self-destruct. Unfortunately, this is permanent damage which will drastically shorten the life of the engine. To each their own, I still think what I think and you think what you think, so we can see how these auto's 5yrs down the road are holding up then.

So far all the STI, WRX, TLX, GS, etc. that is allot of high priced auto's that I have seen abused as they get driven hard, put away wet and little to no maintenance love. I also expect that there are just as many Turbo 4 bangers from GM that are abused as well. I will never be a fan of smaller engines, more turbo boost over a NA V6 or V8. Lucky ICE is coming to an end and eventually EV will be the dominate clean auto. @trinacriabob @oldshurst442 Both of my grandma's always said, the table is NOT where one puts salt and pepper. The cook should be tasting the food and seasoning it appropriately so that you have maximum flavor when it hits the table. People who salt there food especially before ever tasting it, are weird to me. Do they even have tastebuds?

You are too funny considering I am far more for new Tech, EVs than your assumption that it will fail. Sadly, this pandemic has proven my point, HUMANS are the FAILURE POINT! Way too many thinking they can survive without looking at what medical and science can do for a better quality of life. This is true for Toyota, Honda, Etc. lemmings that think they can just drive the appliance and it will last for ever with minimal attention. You know ccap41 that I am speaking the truth as so many just drive till something breaks and with a smaller engine, Turbo'd with pressure, there is far less room for failure. Humans will drive it, abuse it and yes I expect these Turbo 3 Corollas to die young.

That is totally cool that it still survives Mother Nature wrath. Just my NA V8 in the Escalade and SS when it gets to 25% life and I use synthetic Mobil 1 the motors make a big change in sound, I can only imagine what a tiny 3-cylinder Turbo motor would sound like with dirty oil over clean and most now require synthetic due to tight tolerances. As such, the fact that this is a Toyota I have to go with my guy that half of these performance Toys are going to die young due to neglect. I rarely see people or hear people say they have read their owner guide and know the maintenance schedule. We here at the Awesome Cheers and Gears are way beyond the norm for taking care of our autos.

Wonder if that Rock is still there? Probably not as I would think the weather would wear away the base by now. Very cool Pic, thanks for posting.

You Rock!!!

Gotta Love stories about one off concept that engineers built. This is Sexy for the era. General Motors Engineers Built A One-Off Buick Tire Shredder (jalopnik.com) 300 HP NorthStar FWD Riviera!!! Here is one for @balthazar Bagged 1960s Buick Riviera GS Has Saucy Candy Apple Red Land Yacht Digital Vibes - autoevolution Have to say a modern touch on a classic here really works for me. Love the body flowing lines.

Based on the fact that Tesla was not required to have a Chinese partner, I question just how much the Communist government is involved in controlling secretly Tesla. To me, Tesla is a Chinese company as there are huge blocks of stock owned by offshore investment firms in the Asian Rim. GM could merge with Honda, but I doubt a merger would work as Honda has a very different culture than Subaru that GM had a controlling stake in before the bankruptcy and it was sold to Toyota.

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So then the Future History is already written on what happens to the joke of an expense, Space Force.

Considering that I actually think you believe that, I have some lovely Property in Hanford I can sell you cheap with great upside potential!

The one that always stuck in my mind and I did like the auto but fit was tight for my size was the original Taurus SHO with a Yamaha V6. That auto Rocked!

This chart is from the following story: GM’s Ultium Electric Car Platform Technology: Everything You Need to Know (motortrend.com) Which is based on GM's own web site: Committing to an All-Electric Future | General Motors (gm.com) Yet is it not that GM wants to make money from selling their tech also, not just manufacturing? If GM is to get everyone into an EV, then having other auto companies use the Ultium Platform is a must.

@balthazar @surreal1272 @riviera74 One of the benefits of this is that GM was already down the rabbit hole of Lithium-Ion batteries for the Ultium produced autos and Honda had already started work on the all-solid-state batteries of which GM is now able to use as the 2nd generation Ultium battery pack. This co-development is a good thing as GM gets to use Honda engineered all-solid-state batteries and Honda gets access to electric motors / Ultium Platform to eventually get their EVs going. I DOUBT many Honda owners would switch as that Lemming pool seems to be hung up on Honda generic appliances, not saying that some might not be swayed to buy GM, but when I talk with Honda and Acura owners, I have rarely heard anyone say they would buy from GM.

Very cool tech and alternative fuel, hope they can truly deliver as it will make those that hold onto ICE happy.

I do not see why not as his name is still on the auto. True, this is a very small company, I expect it to stay a niche builder.

Not saying it will fail, I said how long will it last? Having a butt load of Torque in a larger engine at a lower RPM seems to have worked for GM and others where the engines have lasted a long time, but I have not heard that high RPM, High Turbo charged stress on an engine will last. Yes, we have seen half a million-mile NA engines from Toyota and others, I have yet to see small high pressure turbo engines other than Diesel that have lasted a long time.

Very interesting Q1 2022 results Improved Semiconductor Supply Drives Significant Year-over-Year Market Share Gains for GM in Key Truck Segments As @smk4565 mentioned in the Tesla thread, Toyota has a New GR Corolla AWD coming to the US, 304 hp from a turbo charged 3-cylinder engine. Full details at the link below on the auto. One has to wonder how long this tiny engine will last. TOYOTA GAZOO Racing Premieres GR Corolla | Toyota | Global Newsroom | Toyota Motor Corporation Official Global Website

Just as GM and Toyota worked together in bringing us the Pontiac Vibe and Toyota Matrix, GM and Honda now plan to bring us a series of affordable EVs targeting the world's most popular vehicle segment, SUVs. To quote Doug Parks, GM executive VP, Global Product Development, Purchasing and Supply Chain. “Our plans include a new all-electric product for North America positioned at a price point lower than the upcoming Chevrolet Equinox EV, building on the 2 million units of EV capacity the company plans to install by the end of 2025.” New EV series planned to go on sale in 2027 starting in North America Honda and GM collaboration designed to enable global production of millions of EVs Companies will explore opportunities for advanced battery collaboration The crossover segment is the largest in the world with an annual volume exceeding 13 million vehicles. By standardization of equipment, processes to achieve world-class quality, higher throughput and greater affordability, GM and Honda believe they can deliver a bigger portfolio of EVs to the global market. GM is already working on new battery technologies for the Ultium platform like Lithium-metal, Silicon and Solid-state batteries along with production methods that can quickly be used to improve and update battery cell manufacturing processes. Honda is making progress on its all-solid-state battery technology which Honda has stated is a core element of future EVs. Honda has established a demonstration line in Japan for all-solid-state batteries and is working on the mass-production line. GM and Honda will share their technologies, design and manufacturing strategies to deliver affordable, desirable EVs on a Global scale starting with North America, South America and China. Honda and GM both believe this mutual work together will allow the companies to reach their carbon neutral goals faster. To quote Shinji Aoyama, Honda Senior Managing Executive Officer: "The progress we have made with GM since we announced the EV battery development collaboration in 2018, followed by co-development of electric vehicles including the Honda Prologue, has demonstrated the win-win relationship that can create new value for our customers,” “This new series of affordable EVs will build on this relationship by leveraging our strength in the development and production of high quality, compact class vehicles.” Honda joined GM's EV battery module development efforts in 2018, then in 2020 Honda and GM announced plans to co-develop two EVs, Honda Prologue and the Acura's first EV SUV to be announced soon. The companies have expanded this working relationship as they have their ongoing relationship with Cruise and are working together on the development of the Cruise Origin, one of the first purpose-built fully autonomous vehicles designed for driverless ride-hail and delivery. One could say the future looks bright for GM and Honda on the Ultium platform. GM and Honda Will Codevelop Affordable EVs Targeting the World’s Most Popular Vehicle Segments View full article

Are you saying it would be stupid to use those car names on an EV or to not use them at all would be stupid? Not really sure what you are implying. ? Or are you saying use them on ev cars?