gm4life

Awww I think I have disagreed enough.

I have been suprised too that some people around here actually agree with me.

Yeah the fuel economy comment to wait. Or not do it at all.

I agree.

Ahhh Olds your a goof. Now I didn't say that.

Disagree but that is okay. I agree with you bottom statement tho, at least put if off, or let the market drive it.

No what disgusts me is the fact we shouldn't do anything to keep ourselfs safe. Goverment has never solved problems never will and this fuel economy bill is no different.

I find it sad people forget what happend on 9/11 and what a great job ex-president Bush has done to keep us safe. I can't find anyway to agree with some of you people but you can kiss GM and your performance cars good-bye if this happens. So much for change.

Bull$h! Moltar. I know many open minded republicans and traditionalist. I am proud to be one. Proud to have a traditonal life and go to church every week, drive American cars, the belief that all life has value, belief that the less goverment the better and the core beliefs our country was founded on. Our fore-fathers warmed of this. Liberals are very opened minded if you agree with them, I have not sold out to any religious zealots no corperations. I have no sold out to the Obama-mania Media like many others have. When people have a "cult" like following of him no one can take the damn blinders off and see the kind of $h! like this fuel economy thing that he is doing. I am proud of who I am. Proud of what my childern believe. I am proud of how I was raised. Moving to a more progressive i.e. liberal agenda is just want the media and the world wants so everyone can think like them. We have strayed so far away from the people who founded this great country.

Whoa you just sounded like a republican.

No he has put our country at risk. Traditional American's what to be safe it is not just crazy gun owning republicans. You can give someone civil treatment and not cuddle them. The reason we were so safe is because of the polices Obama just overturned, it sends the terror groups the wrong messeage hit us while were down. Obama is a true politican, and will do anything to try please his left wing looney base and the more moderate and traditional voters who help push him up and over. I can't stand the man and now he wants to take away my freedom to drive a 8 cylinder RWD car he can stick up his a$$. The really funny part is Obama owned a 300C with a 5.7L Hemi and that car wouldn't even come close to meeting his lofty and expensive to the consumer and company to raise fuel economy. Bush stood by his values and did so with less than a 30% approval rating I give him credit for sticking to his guns. Obama will walk the party line and do whatever he needs to do for political gain, recall Rev. Wright.

No he has put our country at risk. Traditional American's what to be safe it is not just crazy gun owning republicans. You can give someone civil treatment and not cuddle them. The reason we were so safe is because of the polices Obama just overturned, it sends the terror groups the wrong messeage hit us while were down. Obama is a true politican, and will do anything to try please his left wing looney base and the more moderate and traditional voters who help push him up and over. I can't stand the man and now he wants to take away my freedom to drive a 8 cylinder RWD car he can stick up his a$$. The really funny part is Obama owned a 300C with a 5.7L Hemi and that car wouldn't even come close to meeting his lofty and expensive to the consumer and company to raise fuel economy. Bush stood by his values and did so with less than a 30% approval rating I give him credit for sticking to his guns. Obama will walk the party line and do whatever he needs to do for political gain, recall Rev. Wright.

This love everyone policy seems good on paper but in real life, sorry it doesn't work. We have been safe for seven years because of this and being tough on terror not being "open" and "kind". No we are American's and I fully support everything we have done to keep this country safe.

Toe you got this right. Everyone who voted for Obama forgets the other 48% of the non-kool-aid drinkers in this country didn't vote for him. Not everyone loves him or his liberal ideals and views of goverment.

No is he putting are country at risk. I love how liberals want less rights for Americans and legal citizens. In the same sentance they want to give people in Gitmo the same rights as all Americans along with people the jump across the boarder that is total bull$h!. Freedom of privacy, if it keeps our country safe go for it. I want the freedom to drive, what I want and yes, no that doesn't fail in comparison that is very important as well. Socialism hear we come and being free to buy what we want and being tough on crimals is one of the many reasons that made America so great. We will loose are greatness if this kind of stuff happend and become more like whom, oh yeah those silly French people. :AH-HA_wink: Bush actually gave this country freedom and keep this country free from terror for 7 years, Obama is willing to put politics before our countries safety that is fine. Because in four years the republicans will have been given the best gift of all a chance without all these people just longing for change for changes sake. Bush kept our country safe and screwed some things up but he pushed a very traditional agenda something I support. What is the matter with the old fashioned way anyways.

Different views.

Gitmo was a good place for those evil people, and water boarding was okay if it saved people. Then again I am traditional American, I want less goverment, I go to church every Sunday, I drive American cars, and I want a safe country and would rather be on the offensive rather than the defensive. I want the consumers to drive the market i.e. demand what kind of cars they want not the goverment telling them with CAFE and all of Obama's new treats to kill the domestic auto industry. The emission controls alone would be a huge cost along with the state by state race to be the most green and screw the automakers. Yeah that is change.

Amen.

I totally disagree Olds, I am scared to give them to much power over me and what I can buy. Lets just hope no one pushes it further than that. You know as well as I this will cripple the industry including Toyota. I just hope it doesn't happen. But it prolly will and the states will get in a fight over who is the most green. Killing any great cars. Once again another great person with politics I can never agree with. I hope somebody speaks out to this madness. Also if D.C. makes rules like this Obama should turn in his Cadillac Fleet on medium duty truck platforms and get a hybrid too, if he wants this so bad. :AH-HA_wink:

Good Guy with politics I don't even come close to agreeing with.

Yeah I love words like progressive because the progressive movement wants to take away all the freedoms that make our country great. If this happens it is ALL OBAMA'S FAULT, just like the left said everything was BUSH'S fault. Sorry time for pay-back.

Uhh because it is. He has an extreme left agenda and many people bought all his bull$h! hook line and sink 'er. They didn't care what he said it was how he said and making people feel good in hard times isn't as easy thing and B.H.O did just that. You ain't seen nothing yet, the last 7 years have been safe no attacks on America and a good economy for most of that time. At least it was until Barney Frank forced banks to give loans to people that couldn't afford them. If Obama passes this it is another gift to republican party. Along with various other things. He will have just four years, I already think he is a jerk a way bigger jerk than Bush could ever have been thought of. In one hand he'll hand the industry the dough and strangle them with cafe and emissions in the other. Bastard. Extreme Liberal Bastard. Don't ask how much money the goverment has because as much money as you have is what the goverment will get. He is no Reagan never will be. Just now people are staring to realize what they voted for, I find it funny and sad while I am angry at the same time.

Don't worry we will. I am. You vote for change well now you got it. Kiss good-bye any performance cars from GM after the Camaro so no new RWD DTS or anything trust me. I feared this would happen the goverment will take over that is the power of O. Total bull$h! but that is what happens when we elect an extremely liberal president. Kiss good-bye any more fun cars thanks to Obama. I recall having this discussion with you about goverment getting into things but everyone just bitched how bad republicans were and G.W.B. don't make me say I told you so. God Help this Great Nation. Flog 'em while we got 'em. Because if Obama and the dems get their way we will have to have a forigen hybrid. :AH-HA_wink:

Bigger is better... That also applies to ladies rear ends too. Anyways good luck with it, but if the 455 isn't much more you'd be seriously nuts not to go for it. You always can give your son a Buick Century to drive instead and keep the Olds for you!

I think photograph of Palin is pretty close but not for McCain. Whatever the election is over.