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On 3/27/2024 at 11:16 AM, David said:

Considering a planet with 8 Billion and he sold almost 2 million cars, then he is covering .025% of the population compared to other auto companies. I think 2024 going into 2025 we will see other auto companies top Tesla.

Sorry to be mean but, that's such a stupid comparison. Cadillac sales covered all of 0.00184% of the population. That's such a useless statistic and there's no reason a global population comparison makes sales numbers helpful. 

How many electric vehicles did any other company sell next to Tesla?

On 3/29/2024 at 9:59 AM, David said:

You can see some Camaro in those headlights DNA. Would be a Nice Impala replacement or Malibu replacement as a 4-door sedan with haunches. 

That's because somebody typed "Camaro sedan" into an AI image generator. 🤣

10 hours ago, David said:

Yes I hate Elon, but I would not say he is selling a $h! ton of Model 3's and Y's when compared to other auto companies.

Charted: Tesla's Global Sales By Model and Year (2016–2023) (visualcapitalist.com)

From Q2 2016 to Q3 2023 official numbers globally

Model S - 254,283

Model X - 269,136

Model 3 - 2,165,187

Model Y - 2,162,119

302,000 model Y for Q3 2023

117,074 model 3 for Q3 2023

Compared to other auto companies it is not much, yes for pure EV it is allot, but then BYD has surpassed them in Q4 of 2023.

Top All-Electric Car OEMs By Sales In Q4 And 2023: Tesla Vs. BYD (insideevs.com)

Q4 2023 Tesla - 484,507 EVs globally

Q4 2023 BYD - 526,409 EVs globally

2023 (Full Year) International: Worldwide Car Sales - Car Sales Statistics (best-selling-cars.com)

Would not say Tesla sold a $h! ton of autos when they have been surpassed by the Chinese and the Koreans are creeping up on Tesla. 2024 is going to be a very interesting year for auto sales, especially EVs.

The 3 OR Y outsell all of Cadillac. Selling nearly 2 million a year is pretty much a sht ton when you can't get in one for under 50k. If your ONLY comparison to attempt to bring Tesla down is a cheap Chinese company, it's safe to say Tesla's are selling very well, better than any other electric vehicle. 

Also, just because BYD surpassed them in one quarter, doesn't mean Teslas aren't selling well. 

Again, just because you don't like Elon, doesn't mean people don't love his products. 

15 hours ago, riviera74 said:

I find it interesting that the CT6 is no longer sold here in NA.  The CT4 and the CT5 are still sold here, but Cadillac is (from a sales perspective) mostly a crossover/SUV shop.

Yeah, but they're not the only ones who are almost exclusively an SUV manufacturer. Lincoln has gone ONLY SUV. Most companies sell so many more SUVs than cars that that's where their investments lie. Most people don't want cars anymore. 

32 minutes ago, David said:

So true and why I feel Tesla has peaked in regard to big growth, they will have continued much slower growth, but the Minimalist interior is the death of any auto and especially Tesla as long as they continue to think people will look at menu's, sub-menus, etc.

I know you hate Elon and therefore hate his vehicles, but they sell a sht ton of Model 3's and Y's. Apparently, a lot of people are perfectly fine with the minimalist interiors of them. The 3 has been on sale since 2017 and the minimalist interior has not slowed them down one bit. 

29 minutes ago, David said:

I saw every CT6 built and imported here from China sold fast. I think the cost of building and exporting was not what GM wanted for profit level and did the stupid thing of walking away as reviews are all positive on the car. Sales have always been positive, I think GM due to the idiot leadership that moved Cadillac to New York and tried to make it a clone of the Germans was the wrong leader for Cadillac.

There is zero proof you have that every one "sold fast". 

Half the engine options were extremely underwhelming compared to anything this competes with.  a 2.0T and an n/a V6? C'mon Cadillac! 

56 minutes ago, ccap41 said:

I think that was the problem. It *wasn't* a very popular car. If it were, they would have produced more and sold more. 

Sorry, wasn't*

10 hours ago, David said:

Yes, Production was crazy low for such a popular car.

I think that was the problem. It was a very popular car. If it were, they would have produced more and sold more. 

19 hours ago, David said:

Honestly, nice looking is being nice as it already looks dated on the outside and the inside they have gone touch pretty much everything and as such with no physical buttons, I have to wonder just how easy it is to make the basics work.

About as difficult as the EV Escalade. Probably impossible on both. 

Funny enough, it's damn near the same exact setup. 

17 hours ago, David said:

Mach e she liked, we both fit comfortably and clearly anyone could sit behind me, as the lead developer who is 6'2" tall stated, the EV was designed to handle tall people.

So how did this get off the finalist list? 400v vs 800v? 

I definitely agree that I would use a different salesman. I HATE a crappy salesperson. Those people make me associate them all as sleezy. 

1 hour ago, Drew Dowdell said:

Either way, it will be ready for me when I need to leave at 7 am.

That's all I'm worried about. I'm not going to spend a sht ton more money having a 19.2kW charger installed for the 1 day every 3 years I empty the battery, get home for 2 hours, and have to again drive enough that I couldn't make it back home...  

21 minutes ago, David said:

Point I am making is that if all levels of ICE fuel at the same rate, why not have this for all EVs. Yes charging overnight would not be an issue, but if you had been out and about and did not charge the night before and got home with only 10% left and needed to go out in a few hours, having a fast L2 charger (19.2kW) versus the Bolt (7.2kW) levl 2 charger would get you juice into the battery pack fast so you can run out later.

I know what you mean but that's also A LOT of driving in one day. That's a pretty rare scenario to use nearly your entire battery then still need a considerable amount more in "a few hours" where 7.2/11 wouldn't suffice. 

Also, for 19.2kW charging, you need a dedicated 100 amp circuit. I'm not sure if many people have that available anyway. It'll certainly cost more than just a 50amp circuit. So, while it would be nice to be capable of that, I'm still not sure all that many will actually utilize that. 

1 hour ago, David said:

This is my feeling about this that Auto companies are shooting themselves in the foot in regards to EV charging.

GM is a perfect example of this in that the Chevrolet line of EVs have the slowest L1/L2 charging controller and Cadillac has the fastest. The charging speeds start at a pathetic 7.2kW to 19.2kW.

Yes when it comes to GAS Autos they all fill the same into the tank. As such, if an Auto company really wants to give the best experience possible and not have charging complaints, all their Autos from the lowest level to the highest should have the fastest possible.

Mercedes is pathetic with only an 11kW onboard controller for charging their EVs at home compared to Porsche and Audi that are 19.2kW charging controllers.

Mercedes FAILs here in that this is an EQE and as such should have the highest available charging controller. 19.2kW

The charger is L2 capable, i just don't have an outdoor 220v outlet. They give you two connectors with the charger.  One is for your standard 110v plug and one is a 220v plug. 

I actually don't see any issue with 7.2Kw for at-home charging. I guess you may need more if you had a truck and actually drove 200+ miles a day and needed to fill a massive battery overnight. 11Kw is more than enough for something like this, IMO. 

If you completely drained the 96kWh battery, it would still be easily charged overnight in less than 9hrs at that rate. 

Plus, if you were actually trying to maintain your battery, you wouldn't be charging to 100% every time anyway so it would be even less time. 

12 hours ago, Drew Dowdell said:

How long do you have it?

Not sure. I think her vehicle is done, actually. It may be going away today.

13hrs on the slowest charger possible:

5 hours ago, Drew Dowdell said:

Woof! You are in a charging dead zone. Even your fast charger is slow at 50kW max. (There Buick/GMC dealer). I see a bunch listed as “Coming Soon” and your Walmart will get them also. So it isn’t forever.

Haha yeah, this is a pretty small town. I’m surprised they have one that’s not at a dealership already. 
 

The Walmart would be nice but I’d never use it, if I bought an EV. I’d already have a charger at home for waaaay cheaper. 

15 minutes ago, Drew Dowdell said:

See if turning off Eco Charging helps the time. That’s Mercedes being “smart” and charging at a slower rate because your grid isn’t green right now. 
 

If you bought one you’d want to put an L2 box in.

The Ecocharging is turned off. 
 

Yeah, I don’t think I could commit to an EV Until we built a garage and I could put a L2 outlet in there. Im just saying that L1 could work for us, if I really wanted to. 

3 hours ago, Drew Dowdell said:

Assuming 12 hours of charging overnight, you'll get about 108 miles of range back, that might get you pretty close to full.  Not terrible.

Yeah, I juuuust plugged it in at 44% and this is what it’s reading. TUESDAY. 😂
 

it would honestly be do-able on a regular basis because most driving is short for us. We’d kill it over the weekend and multiple nights throughout the week we’d be full again. 

6 hours ago, Drew Dowdell said:

What's your zip?

62249

I’m going to rummage through the trunk and see if the charger that comes with the car can work or not with our situation. 

Well, it looks like the home charger can be plugged into a 110v outlet with an extension cord so I’ll have to do that tonight. We drove about 70 miles today and it’s at 45% remaining. Getting about 300w/mi in quite a mix of driving. 

I've finally gotten to spend a few minutes behind the wheel of an EV. My wife's G is in the shop again for the same exact reasons it was a couple years ago. We had a C300 4Matic loaner than got a flat Wednesday. They picked that up and dropped off an EQE 350 4Matic Sedan.

It looks like crap. But I already knew that. It's super quick and super quiet, which I expected both of those already as well. The interior is 95% of the C300 with a few more menu options and considerably larger rear legroom, also as I'd expect from an E over a C. 

It's overall super nice and quite fun to drive and mess around with something so different. It's weird accelerating so quickly and my body/mind just expect a shift point and for noises to happen and they just don't. It just keeps pulling silently. 

I have no clue how long we'll have this for so I may only have those like 3 miles of driving it. I'd like to comment on the range/efficiency of it but we'll have to see how that goes.

Oh yeah, we have to publicly charge it and that's going to suck total @ss. We only have 3 chargers in town, all level 2, with no way to plug it into an exterior wall outlet at home, that I know of. 

I don't care what it may resemble. It looks cool as hell. 

I love it. It's probably the perfect size for us and I still dig the soft boxy shape.

It's nice to see these significant price drops but I have a feeling they'll just raise them back up in a couple months. That's just what's been happening. 

54 minutes ago, surreal1272 said:

That depends on where you are. There are nothing but Charger cops here, whether it's local cops, country sheriffs, or state troopers. There are SUVs, sure, but far more Chargers used than those.  

We once had Chargers all over the place now everything is an Explorer. I actually don't remember the last time I saw a Charger as a police vehicle, come to think of it. I'm sure I've seen them around still but everything around here has to be like 90% Explorers now. 

4 minutes ago, Drew Dowdell said:

I mean... is anyone going to notice? Jaguar sold like 8,000 cars in the US last year and 43,000 globally.  It sounds like they're building up a couple of years of inventory to cover it. I think even Alfa Romeo would laugh at that.

For comparison, they sold 280,000 Land Rover / Range Rover / Defenders globally.

Hahaha fair point. 

This seems, at least, five years too early.