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This is the cheap way out for GM, especially at the price points of some of these larger vehicles. That's far from a two-tone tan and it doesn't look good. It's so you can match it up to any exterior color choice more easily and the factory order parameters will let it fly. A true two-tone tan and two-tone gray would look good, but much different from what's shown in these photos.

Pocket dialing is the pits. I've had a few random strange episodes with it. Perfect stuff for "Candid Camera" type skits, as in looking at your phone and thinking "WTF."

Seen on Saturday ... what a treat to see one of these. I'm guessing this is a Thunderbird of 1994 to 1997 vintage, more or less. Not too shabby for a 25 year old car. A friend of mine had one in silver (with the V6) and a girl I knew had one in that metallic color that looked like a grapefruit (with a V8) that also had a sunroof. If I recall, these Thunderbirds came with a lot of standard equipment (almost all power options) and had a base model MSRP of around $17 K or thereabouts. They offered a good value. Ford used these aluminum alloy wheels for quite a while. Would this be pin striping ... or pimp striping? Regardless, you don't see it much anymore. Attractive rear tail lamp set up You rarely see comfortable cloth bucket seats like this anymore This generation of Thunderbird had the two big sweeps in the dash dialed ... and it looked good. I got to drive one of these one. It may have also been silver. It had the 4.6 SOHC V8. I had it on a trip to Vancouver, Canada. It performed beautifully, with enough power and plenty of smoothness, and was fairly good on gas. Who'd have thunk the 4.6 V8 would have powered FoMoCo's flagship cars going forward for quite a long time?

One of the more interesting photos most of us have seen: (palms are sweating) Yikes.

@Drew Dowdell I think I liked my C3 because I've had really small, buzzy, manual Renault and Peugeot econoboxes in southern Europe in that past and did not like them at all. I would imagine that, with the combination of a diesel, a manual, and difficult driving situations, the C3 would be no fun at all. I was amazed by how the shift quality of automatic transmissions in small European cars has gotten so much better. Early 2000s Smart cars with automatics have volumes written about how awful their automatic transmissions were in terms of shift quality (can't vouch for reliability). The receptionist at the Citroen dealership told me that people over there NOW like the DSG very much. I learned that this is what southern Europeans call automatic transmissions. In the past, automatic transmissions were viewed negatively in southern Europe in that they took the fun and control out of driving. I recently learned that the small gasoline engine in the C3 and similar cars is a 3 cylinder engine! That's what the cheap Toyota Aygo has, as well as the Mitsubishi Mirage. I had the reverse situation. I was once supposed to get a Fiat 500 or something automatic. They didn't have any. I ended up in an Opel Insignia automatic wagon. Three fantastic days: the ride, the quiet, the barely noticeable shifting, and the familiar feel of a cousin of GM-Buick. The thing was that, at this airport, Thrifty was served by the Hertz counter. The rental agent printed the agreement and it came up to about 350 Euro. In nicer words, I asked "WTF?" Turns out they had put it on a Hertz form and pre-selected ALL the optional insurances. I pointed out that my reservation with Thrifty amounted to about 160 Euro. They tore up the Hertz printout and ran the correct one. You have to watch these schmucks.

Every place I've worked had different restaurant hangouts - at one place, it was a pizza place some of us liked, at another place, it was a Mexican hole in the wall that had an incredible enchilada platter and, at another place, it was a Greek restaurant where the lunch pricing was much more reasonable than the dinner pricing. When I was in college and worked at a few hospitals part time and during summers, it was the cafeteria. You couldn't beat the prices. It seemed hospitals tend to be big gossip grapevines; however, the business side of the house tends to be buffered from the medical side, so we were able to figure out that the goings-on might be entertaining but weren't connected enough to get the details. I guess that, if a person wanted details so badly, they could watch soap operas as a surrogate.

I don't know ... it's something about the way they grill their chicken, meat. When EPL put out coupons, it would incentivize me to go there for some tacos and whatnot ... and I also liked putting their very tasty mild to medium green sauce on my food. Touche'. This is called "nichemanship" in marketing jargon, IIRC. It's seeing an unmet need ... and filling it!

Right, now that I think about my '92 Regal coupe with a deep shelf or cowl, not to mention the unique "ravine" dash it had from 1988 to 1994, before it took on the more conventional 3 zone dash with the bigger glove box seen in other W-bodies, such as the very last Cutlass Supreme with the blacked out C-pillars. I'm undecided as to whether I prefer the long shelf or the short cowl, which is really apparent in the current Chevy Malibu where the dash starts a downward descent right from the windshield.

Ha. I was organizing and purging photo files and it seems I hadn't uploaded these. I couldn't believe how this played out: there was a wait to see the sales reps so it was soft sell and this dealership had Citroen C3s on display, not to mention these hanging chairs I remember seeing in my childhood and teenage years, which were ideal for hanging from the beams on an outdoor wooden patio in a warm climate. Inside a Citroen dealership in another land: This one was spoken for (sold tag somewhere on it): One of the current odd pastel colors that's popular across the pond ... "Why?" I ask ... I got a kick out of this chair:

Cheap chain Mexican food: Del Taco. Period. Slightly less cheap chain Mexican food: El Pollo Loco.

It's a head scratcher because, when you look at them and now even see them in so many cars at lower price points, you wonder, "Why didn't they think of this sooner?" I'm going to guess that something along the lines of a Cadillac Fleetwood Brougham or a Lincoln Town Car type vehicle would have been the first (?) I remember that, in minivans, the dual sliding doors was a big deal ... and I remember the ads for the rear seat passenger TVs in Oldsmobile Silhouette minivans. Once they lost the long snouts, the GM minivans seemed like decent vehicles, even though they were probably reliable enough when released with the more unusual looks.

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PHOTOS - Exterior and mechanical Here's a sleek looking Dodge Charger with the Tampa Sunshine Skyway Bridge in the background, taken from Fort De Soto An angled rear three quarter view of the Dodge Charger Great lines ... and the latest rear light bar is the best design to come along The latest grille looks clean, sort of merges with the headlamps, and works well blacked out An "aerial view" of the Dodge Charger Engine bay: 3.5 Pentastar V6 - 292 hp - in RWD set up ... big air intake, small battery area (unless they've stashed it elsewhere), strut towers (with black grommets at the top) ... more or less symmetrically laid out, with room to reach things Driver's side view of the engine bay - oil fill cap, coolant recovery bottle, brake fluid (and master cylinder?) under the black rubber lid (at the right) ... but I couldn't find the transmission fluid dipstick (not sure if this is a sealed unit) Passenger's side view of the engine bay ... looks like 3 direct injection ports on this side of the engine bank, battery hookups here, up front (but the battery may be elsewhere since it looks shallow, just like they did with the last-gen Pontiac Bonneville) ... what was surprising was that the engine sat higher and more forward than in old school RWD cars ... maybe that is because of the rack and pinion system (not sure) Touche'. Just in case you don't know the brand and model of car whose hood you were raising up ... - - - - - End of exterior and mechanical photos

I got back from Arby's drive-through with a sandwich and their twin pack of triangular potato cakes. The potato cakes seldom make it through the entire ride back home. I've yet to meet a potato I don't like.

Pulling out of a parking garage, I saw an incoming last gen, front engine Corvette. It was white with burgundy leather bucket seats. The removable tops (whatever they're called) were off to take in the sunshine. I heard a nice, healthy exhaust note as it drove past me.

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I'm going to interpret this along the lines of the 115 comment. My parents had a neighbor where the wife talked for both of them but, when the husband said something, it was usually far more incisive and made more sense. There was a somewhat ornery lady in the neighborhood who was really short and stout, and this guy referred to her as "4 by 4." I still laugh about this. She could be one of those 115ers, as was described in another post. Sometimes, people of few words can come up with some great observations, nicknames, and one liners.

Thank you. This is great. You also put up the flag of Ireland! It seems to like a "pushmepullyu" - about a wash. What's odd in the comparison chart is that lower in glycemic index and lower in sugars are given to one and the other, respectively. I thought those concepts were somewhat the same. I'll go with both as well. Almost all fish that can be filleted works for me. If you land on some good shark, it's delicious ... sort of like a drier swordfish if prepared right. In the realm of seafood, it's clams, mussels, and crab that I can't stand. It's cool that you don't like avocados or salmon. I can count how many glasses of beer I've had in my life on two hands. I get flack for that. It has never tasted good to me. I've had some decent alcoholic drinks in the realm of mixed drinks and wines, but am certainly no connoisseur. I'd rather be on the lookout for bargains in travel.

dingle, or Dingle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dingle (Who'd have thunk?)

"A poor Republican is like a cow that is pro-leather" . . . Aw shucks, I already posted this one before.

A retired Northeasterner in FL told me this joke, since it had occurred within his family and created flack ... Q: What do you call a marriage between a Sicilian and a Neapolitan? A: A mixed marriage. (Historically, they're not the biggest fans of each other ... at least across the pond.)

Chips (as in cow chips)

I see "fibre" and "anaemia." What English speaking country does this come from? I like dates but I'm not quite sure about their sugar content. I thought that avocado(e)s (incredible things) were low in everything because they came from a tree. Wrong! But they supposedly help with the good cholesterol or some such medical criteria. It hasn't stopped me from putting them into my salad.

Do you like dates? Not those kinds of dates. Dates you can eat. WTH? No, these kinds of dates. When I was a kid, I thought they were gross, mostly because of the way they looked. My parents loved them. Perhaps it had to do with their growing up in an area where palm trees were normal and the Arab world wasn't all that far away. I came to learn that dates are delicious. This one famous kitsch place for dates is called Shields Date Garden and is in Indio, CA near Palm Springs. I believe Indio is the "Date Capital of the World." And, if you're still thinking about the other kind of dates, they can "sort of" accommodate you: Any family jaunt to the SoCal desert near Palm Springs meant my parents would be buying dates to eat there ... and to eat at home. Not only that, it's kind of funny to connect the dots between Shields ... and dates.

I found this photo taken a while back. Does it indicate GM dominance over Ford? (It was at a GM brand dealership.) That first jelly bean Taurus was sort of weird and possibly the basis of the jargon "jelly bean" styling for cars that followed.