Intrepidation

Not enough people want Chevrolet and Toyota rebadges either...which encompasses all but 2 of the lineup. I'm willing to bet with the way things are going GM is going to phase Pontiac out over time by not giving it new product and canceling other products. The fact that the "performance" division isn't getting an Alpha car but Buick is is proof that this could very well be the case.

With Pontiac not far behind.

I never called you out on buying within your means. However if Camino has the means and can buy new (which I'm assuming he will when he's ready to buy) then yeah, buying new stimulates the economy a lot more than buying used. Camino, test drive the new pickups from Ford, Dodge and GM. Even if you're not in the market, half of this is just for the hell of it test driving anyway, and we'd love to hear your impressions.

As far as Dells go, they're notebooks seem pretty good, but I've heard and experienced so many problems with their desktops that they would be off my list...of course I wouldn't never buy a pre-assembled desktop anyway. As for Gateways...the last one I used had Windows 98 on it and 68 megs or RAM so I can't really comment about them besides that I didn't know they were still around.

I'm just letting you know what it's called. Actually the Customer Advisory Board isn't a bunch of head honchos but Chrysler owners who get to discuss and chat with execs, designers and engineers. Of course I keep missing most of these sessions. I missed the chat with Steven Landry, EVP... They also give Chrysler feedback on various questions the company posts on the board. There's a difference between this alliance and Daimler's takeover. This isn't being coined as a "merger" (which ended up being a takeover), it's a partnership that according to the details laid out gives Fiat access to things like underutilized plants and dealers, and Chrysler acess to small car platforms and powertrains (both of which it desperately needs). Of course it could all go to hell. Wouldn't be the first time.

You could group masturbating sessions together to save time and improve efficiency. Suddenly 15 minutes of your day used up is now 2 minutes.

That was a Chrysler exec? I saw something about that in a headline but haven't read the story yet. Yeah they should play nice for now.

Yeah they wouldn't be GENERAL MOTORS if they only sold some trucks, a Camaro and a Corvette.

Depends on the model, nothing Porsche sells I care for. The only thing I liked from then in recent history enough to want was Porsche Carrera GT

What about GM did they diss? Did I miss it?

Me too! I'm leaning towards a LT because with teh V6 the car is more balanced....but the V8 still handles good and it sounds sooooooooooo good. One thing I'll have to do is compare what the ground effects kit looks like VS not having it. On the builder it looks really good, but in real world photos the car looks sleek and sexy.

Customer Advisory Board didn't exist until after Cerberus took ownership...so I don't think they said it.

So I think it's finally time to upgrade my computer. I haven't done anything to it since I built it after all, and the 7950 GX2 is showing its age. I've been shopping around lately for a good replacement that $200 or under. EVGA 896-P3-1262-AR GeForce GTX 260 Superclocked Edition 896MB Seems to be a nice combination of performance and value. However I'm open to other options if anyone's got some to recommend, since I'm just shopping around at the moment.

Sounds painful.

From CAB in regards to what Chrysler gains from an alliance with Fiat:

Yeah...because Corvettes, Chargers, Challengers, Vipers, GTs Magnums, 300Cs G8s etc. aren't awesome.

Oh I don't know who cares about sales..maybe any company that ever existed to sell a product? Yeah, pickups and 400+ horsepower cars will make huge profits sitting on the dealer lots when gas is $4.00 again. If you have a balanced portfolio of really good mainstream cars you can afford to put money into really good performance car projects.

It's based on the LX platform, I'm assuming the new version of LX. The concept is built on the actual LX platforms o the look is certainly possible to keep for production.

I really dislike it. Especially since I liek to fix things myself if I can. Case in point. The Prizm we have had a broken driver's door regulator. Pulling the panel off was easy enough, and the regulator was bolted (not riveted) into the door. By contrast, the Grand Marquis' regulators are riveted and very hard to get out. The Prizm's arm rest and door handle were seperate pieces that couple be unscrewed and taken apart...so no risk of braking the parts. This is good because the door handle broke off once.

Chrysler's been pretty good about bringing concepts to market in a reasonable time frame (Challenger for example). I wonder what's going to happen with the Avenger. Will it go RWD too or stick to it's platform to keep it from competing with the 200C? I would think the latter would be a better choice, since it would also give Chrysler a FWD midsizer to sell to those who fear RWD. The Avenger, unlike the Sebring, I think is salvageable with better powertrains, noise isolation, and a good interior.

I miss that about the local Dodge dealership. They would let me take some cars out for a solo drive.

I'm afraid to try and swap out the door handles of my car, because unlike cars from even 5 years prior, the door handles/housings are glued and plastic riveted in place. No screws...which is annoying. I'm afraid to break it. If you get word please let us know. It won't be the end of the world if the feature is canceled, but it's something cool and unique that I would love to have compliment the interior.

There's an odd discrepancy regarding the steering between MT / C&D and IL and Jalopnik. The former two mention things like lots of feedback and great on center feel, the latter two mention things like dead on center, and overly light.

Motor Trend First Test: Camaro Car & Driver tests the 2010 Chevrolet Camaro Jalopnik - 2010 Camaro First Drive Insideline Full Test

I personally wouldn't get it, that runs into base Camaro territory. That gets you a 6-speed, 300 horsepower and way cooler (IMO) looks.