Intrepidation

I was referring to the ugly 90's shape of teh wheel and more importantly the fact that it doesn't telescope. You can get a telescoping wheel on the Ford friggin' Focus. My problem with the 4-speed is that it doesn't look good for a brand's flagship car to have an outdated tranny....when say...Saturn gets the newer 6-speed. Hell, the next Malibu will get the 6-speed.

CR also doesn't recommend it because of it's quality problems.

f@#k you and your melted dash Bonneville! Had to do it Which by the way how come I haven't seen any pics of that posted? (unless I missed them).

This is why I love kill switches.

Good point...none of their commercials really point out the MyGig system....which I think is a sweet feature. Not too many vehicles offer a an HD to store music and files....something I'd love to have. I'm sure the Nav system is good too. But like I already said....I didn't care for any of the commercials.

Which is so sad, though I guess not surprising.

Well then you should get your facts straight because pickups are all over Massachusetts. Wanna know which ones? Dodges, Fords, Chevies and the occasional Toyota. Toyota builds the Tundra in Texas in a lame and pathetic attempt to convince the public that the truck is American, when it is in fact, Japanese.

When does the Fusion get the new 3.5? It'd be a great car then. it easily has the best interior (except the Accord). Good build quality and soft materials everywhere. It also looks very good if a bit bland. I still don't think it's hopeless, for the reasons I mentioned above. The Avenger is a car for the tech Savvy and Dodge is working to capitalize on that. It'll carve out a niche for itself. I have yet to sit in one so I can't say what I think of the materials but I like teh design a lot. I also like the exterior alot. I want one, a black R/T...no rear seat DVD

Want me to use the recent Cobalt recall instead? The point I made was simple: everyone has recalls. I don't take any swings at GM's mom unless someone takes a swing at Chrysler, if you haven't noticed. I'd do the same with a Toyota fan or a Ford fan if they were knocking Chrysler for something stupid like having recalls.

I have yet to see one.

They are not hopeless if people are buying them. they offer unique style and features that other competitors don't. This gives them their own niche. Are they perfect? No, but name me a car that is...they all have issues. The Fusion has a crappy engine. The Aura has build quality issues and no Nav. The Camry has tranny issues and build quality issues, the Accord is fat and getting old (although still the benchmark for the segment I think).

And apparently we're so stupid we need cooking instructions on Pop Tart boxes.

Because that's not what McDonald's is about. I hate how they try and pass themselves off as healthy. If I wan t healthy I'll go somewhere else. When I go to mcDonald's I'm fully aware it's not good to me. The only thing that pisses me off more is fatasses who sue the company because "it made them fat". Right, like the company held a gun to their fat faces and told them to eat the food.

You can't go wrong with black :3 What is the name of the song/who is it sung by that plays during the video clip on the Dodge website?

Yeah the 3.6 is a pretty sweet engine...I'd like to drive an Aura thusly equipped.

w00t! I turn 21 this month Anyway I saw: A sliver CX-9 A black CX-7 A black Aura and a gray Aura

I love driving through the snow

Yeah cuz GM has never had a recall http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=107092 Hey look, when it rains it pours!

Do you have a first car yet?

w00t!

Ouch, I thought they were 2 cars at first.

About 500,000.

Some cool pics of the Avenger:

Yeah, the new recall isn't that bad, although it's ashame that the Caliber now has a recall under its belt. The Ram one is pretty bad though, like you said. At least they are keeping on top of it.

I suppose if the plastic was decently textured it's ok...but I'd still prefer padding.