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Yeah, I definitely know what you mean. I only have one point and I'm pretty sure they haven't caught it.. and we just switched insurance agencies and my insurance dropped at the new place, so who knows. I'll definitely have to get quotes though.Thanks for showing concern and not a smartass type comment. Thanks, really. Oh man that car's sweet! Drove a yellow SS SC with black/yellow leather interior. Only thing is that it didn't have the Recaro seats and limited slip (G85 package), which I'm going to get, but it did have a sunroof, so that's a plus.Anyway, being my first time actually driving a stick down the road (I've only launched a stick once, but that was a year ago), I stalled a few times because of stupid things I didn't know you're supposed to do. Anyway, after getting it into first, I was able to get the car moving quite quickly through gears. Coming home, I brought her up close to the redline and chirped into second past a cop (I didn't see him because I was WAY preoccupied on shifting and all that), but he didn't do anything. The car's fit-and-finish is so much better than the Camaro's, its radio is very clear and precise (7-speaker Pioneer system with tweeters and sub), and everything about it just seemed great for such a little car. It'll be the perfect replacement for my car. The guy gave me a quote for $20,420 + tax with the G85 Performance Package and sunroof and that's pretty much the lowest I can get it for after the rebates (not many) and GM Employee Discount. They also said they could take the Camaro for an absolute maximum of $4,000 and I chuckled, knowing I can get a few more for it than that. So, as soon as I can get the Camaro out of the driveway, it looks like I'll have a black Cobalt SS SC with the G85 performance package!

That's dumb that you can't still get the yellow inserts on the door panels, but whatever. I'll deal with it.Going to go test one out in a few minutes! If we can't drive it, at least we can check one out!

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Yeah, I'm planning on, if I get it, having a sunroof and the G85 Performance Package as the only options. Hopefully I can still get yellow inserts on the door panels, but if not I'll live with it. I'm going to try ebay first, after I find out about selling cars/shipping cars on ebay, Sixty8. I'll set a real high reserve price and see what the Camaro's worth is out there on the market, then maybe I'll set up an AutoTrader or Craig's List deal and see what's up. Z, do you realize how much I already pay monthly on insurance for the Camaro? My insurance payments will drop about $100 (after talking to some other Cobalt SS2 owners.. they each pay about $80-85 for full coverage on their own plans -- my Camaro costs me $200/month just for insurance) plus the car payments, which should be near or less than $200/month (the one girl I talked to put $8000 down and is paying $156/month on the SmartBuy program.. I'm hoping to put down at least $6000). Also, you're probably right about the A/C, but every other day it seems like there is a new problem or my dad is complaining about an old problem. So, we've decided that getting a new car is the best ultimate option. Let me tell you, getting rid of the Camaro won't be easy, and this decision has taken me months to come to (I've been debating it within myself for awhile without mentioning it to anybody else). I think I'll be much happier in the end.

So.. I know what you're all thinking.. And I'm thinking the same. I love my Camaro, I really do. I love most everything about it. However, it's wearing on me and isn't as fresh as it was 2 years ago when I started driving, much less 6 years ago when we bought it. What's bugging me about it? Read on. Let's date back to when we bought this thang: almost exactly 6 years ago. Since the first day we had it in the garage, it has had a very slight oil leak. I'm talking about maybe one drip of oil on the garage floor after each time of taking it out for a drive. Not a big deal, no, but it does mean that my rear main is bad. But.. we fixed that with the engine rebuild, right? Obviously not, as it still leaks. As quoted by a transmission shop who can fix the problem, it will be $450 out the door. Next, there is the slight problem that includes two cracked front fenders along with the front bumper. These aren't noticeable to anybody glancing at the car, but they irritate the hell out of me just knowing that they're there. As a matter of fact, this damage has been there for about a year now and not one onlooker has noticed it unless I point it out. But, I notice it, and that's enough for me. Price to fix these pieces: $55/fender and $75 for the front bumper... all plus S&H and paint. Now the total is up to $635. Then we figure in the Air Conditioner that's suddenly making a metal-on-metal grinding noise until I turn on the A/C and it goes away. For a new condensor, that's another $265 plus S&H: total's at $900 + S&H and paint. And, one final note is that I found out all Camaro V6 automatics, '98 and up, came with traction control, which makes it impossible for me to burn out. I mean, yeah, burning out is pointless and irrelevant, but I'd still like to light 'em up here and there, ya know? At least my car takes off quickly without wheelspin, I guess.. So, this brings us to the Cobalt. I'm now planning on getting a black 5-speed 2006 Cobalt SS Supercharged Coupe to replace my automatic 1998 Camaro V6. It's going to be a little quicker, much more modern, many less squeaks/rattles, flawless body/engine, it'll have a warranty on it, and it'll be awesome. It's a manual, something I've regretted not having in the Camaro. Every aspect of the Cobalt SS SC is screaming my name: it's small, light, quick, and ready for aftermarket accessories. Will I rice it out? No. I'll try to keep it tasteful; I've already got headlights, modified taillight covers, and grilles in mind. Also, I'm already planning on getting rid of the spoiler and getting spark plugs/intake/exhaust/pullies done. I've been doing my research on this car for a few days now and tomorrow I'm hoping to test drive one, if not just check a couple out. I'm already excited as ever, as I'm sure you can imagine. This car will be a perfect stop-gap for me between the current Camaro and the next, when I'll go from one SS to another. Only problem right now is that I have to find out how much money this car will be monthly for insurance and payments. We'll see. The cost is the only thing that could hold me back, because I finally got my dad to cave in because he was pissed that we just did all this work to the Camaro and now I want to just get a whole new car. But, I gave him a few good, logical reasons why to get a new car, and he seems to be all for it.. intrigued about the Cobalt I'm looking into now and agreeing with me on getting one. Maybe my parents will help me pay for it too, I don't know. But, yeah, I'm excited!

Okay.. look for a new Lounge thread shortly!

Very sexy! There was a similar one for sale in red w/ black stripes (fresh paint) up the street about a month ago..

If anybody else would like to know, I'll post the PM I sent him.. and an update to it :AH-HA_wink:

I hear ya. I'm thinkin' about selling the Camaro and it'll be the same dramatic departure..

I'm looking for a nice, cheap Cobalt SS SC

6 days from now, playa!

Thanks, everybody. Me being a grad hasn't hit me yet.. all it currently means to me is that I'm out of high school forever.

Navy blue Continental GT.

Check that out, we're agreeing on something!

So, I made a chop of what I hope to one day see, a Saleen Camaro (please comment on this chop's design HERE): Then I did a little Saleen S281 (Mustang) research. S281 stands for the Saleen version of Ford's 281 cubic inch 4.6L V8 in the Mustang GT. The Saleen S281's performance specs are as follows (stage: "name of stage" -- horsepower/torque): Ford Mustang GT -- 300/320 S281 Stage 1: "3-Valve" -- 330/340 S281 Stage 2: "Supercharged" -- 435/425 S281 Stage 3: "Extreme" -- 550/500 However, the Mustang only uses one V8 and we're counting on the Camaro having two from the factory. Therefore, I'm going to use the lower-end V8 for the Saleen version of our beloved 5th Generation Camaro, the Saleen S350, because it is the closest to the stock Mustang GT. Going just by guess work, I'm going to guess the lower-end V8 engine (let's just call this Z28 for now) to be 350 cubic inches with 350 HP and 350 lb/ft torque. Then, the upper-end V8 Camaro (let's name this one SS) is speculated around 430-450 HP and similar torque, which works perfectly with my Saleen numbers: Chevy Camaro Z28: 350/350 S350 Stage 1: 380/380 Chevy Camaro SS: 440/440 S350 Stage 2: 500/475 S350 Stage 3: 625/575 Now, in terms of horsepower and torque only, this puts the Z28 right above the GT, the SS right between S350 Stage 1 and S350 Stage 2 (also putting the SS right with the S281 Stage 2 "Supercharged"), and S350 Stage 2 right in Shelby Cobra GT500 territory (which has 500 HP and 480 lb/ft all for a Z06-like price). I've done my research over the last couple hours and all the pricing, numbers, etc. seem feasible (I based numbers on GT vs S281 ratios). The rumor is that Saleen is going to please Camaro buyers, but for now all we have is speculation...

Well, if you were in chat right now, you'd know who would f*ck BV if BV went through a sex change

Just got back home from.. first, graduation.. then, all-night-senior-party at Dave & Buster's. Damn I'm tired! Night y'all. Morning to others.

Last night's chat was.. interesting and fun as hell!

Thanks, Charguh, you just proved all my accusations.

Some new favorites: http://www.cardomain.com/ride/734286/10 *Not completely work safe

Damn, man, hope everything gets fixed and looks better than new!

Find me a new car then, whore. haha

Find me one with low miles for cheap, and okay lol

Well, I think we can just blame society for children like this.. First, everybody blames the media for this and the media for that, but if they didn't watch or support the things the media exploits, the media wouldn't show it! Second, people don't allow their children to have imaginations anymore. Some of these things have been going on for years. For example, many young, young boys who try playing with a doll are told not to do that because their parents think it might make the kid more feminine.. it won't! It gives them a sense of creativity, actually. And don't ask me for how.. it does. Third, society allows children to grow up too fast by allowing these kids to see things way ahead of their time.. Example: viewing PG13 and R-rated films at young ages. These films have a rating for a reason. Now, is that to say a 10 year old can't see a PG13 film or a 15 year old can't see an R-rated film? No. But, these are "guidelines" to help the parent control what his/her child is exposed to. Whatever. I'm happy I was a kid who could enjoy sitting down to Bugs Bunny, Scooby Doo, Ducktales, Tom & Jerry, Bobby's World, etc... and love every second of them.

Well, I don't need a new car right now, but within the next 2 years maybe. It's just good to know now so maybe I can bookmark 'em and keep a wandering eye on the market. Oops, did I just say I need a new car?