Camino LS6

So what? The point is that greed has flooded our market with defective or dangerous garbage to the exclusion of any worthwhile products. The lack of quality needs to come back to haunt the Chinese, they build nothing worth buying.

Is it the law over there that everything they make has to be defective junk? Today's frustrations: - Brand new defective fluorescent bulb - Plastic-cased flourescent starters that twist apart as they are installed - Those same starters 6 months later that crumble to pieces due to degraded plastic and so require dismantling the light fixture to remove the remains. Thanks loads, Walmart! We have to find a way to eliminate this junk from our market.

Glad to hear it, Z!

Oh, and it can't hurt to post some sort of description about the specs for your designs. If you explain how it meets the specs, it can only help.

For those of you still working on your entries, be sure to double-check the recipe at the beginning of the thread. The entry that best exemplifies those specs will have a leg-up in the competition.

That '99 Formula sounds interesting to me.

I agree! Thanks for posting them!

Minor update: Yesterday I finally got back to this for a short time. I drained the old oil and replaced the filter, dug up some valve cover gaskets I had laying around, got the car up on jackstands, and attempted to drain the fuel tank. Due to the position the tank is mounted in, and the small amount of remaining fuel, nothing more would drain. So I unbolted the straps holding the tank in and rotated it toward the back of the car. This didn't help me to drain it (I'm just going to pull the tank entirely), but it did allow me to recover the tank sticker/build sheet from the top of the tank. The sticker is largely intact, but unfortunately it is illegible. The initial attempt to start the engine may happen this week. My nephew will be taking video of the ensuing smoke screen.

I know that there are others in the works, anyone else ready to post?

Ted! Glad to see you back!

I plowed during that entire storm - 74 hrs straight, with one two-hour break, and one four-hour break. I am unlikely to forget the experience. Nothing, and I mean nothing, looked the same, everything familiar had become invisible or alien beyond recognizability. The thing about that one was that the storm just refused to come to an end. Travel was illegal for three days straight here in PA except for emergency vehicles. I decided that may plow truck was an emergency vehicle and continued working through it. It got to the point that finding a place to refuel was nearly impossible all of the gas stations were abandoned. Wild.

Lifts and big tires don't come into play here. I've driven 4x4s of all types and vintages - some are really unstable and I'm not accusing the Liberty of that. However, my mother's Liberty (new at the time) was far less stable than any other 4x4 from this decade that I have spent time driving. It wasn't a '54 Willys (yeah, I've driven one), but it didn't measure up in highway stability. That's all I'm saying, B-K will have to drive it for himself and decide if he can live with it.

Sorry, my allergies are kicking up...

A worthy entry, MDM. Can't wait to see the rest of the competition.

Pretty amazing - must be about 50 feet high. The closest I've seen to that was during the blizzard of '96. A road near the house I was living in at the time had walls like that about 20-25 feet high (created by drifitng). It was like being in another world. Nothing looked familiar at all.

I sure would like to be able to fill-up with CNG at home - somethng that is very do-able for much of the population.

Consider this also, much of the necessary infrastructure for CNG and propane already exists. You would not be starting from scratch as with other alt fuels. We could do this in short order. And don't forget that pipelines make this far more efficient to deliver than even conventional fuels. The added bonus is that gaseous fuels greatly extend engine life.

Surprising results!

"tick-tock"

I've been drivng 4x4 vehicles all my life, and the Liberty felt more unstable than what I'm used to in those vehicles. I'm not comparing them to cars or "soft-roaders". It may be a Jeep thing, but it isn't a good thing.

Well, durability certainly is an upside on these. My sister has about 125k on hers now, and it still is going strong. My objections were in three areas. 1) The Liberty felt really unstable at highway speeds, the handling was very twitchy. It felt quite top-heavy and constant correction of the steering wheel was required. 2) The brakes were weak and slow to respond. 3) The driver's position felt cramped. None of my complaints are enough to damn the Liberty, but I was always glad to get out from behind the wheel.

That's about par for the McMansion crowd.

I'd trade a little difficulty in finding fuel for being able to buy what I want. I call that a fair trade, and that's why I think this would be a good way to market CNG vehicles.

I really disliked the one my mom had, especially for highway driving.