Camino LS6

Which doesn't make it ovation-worthy. They've been dealt a very good hand, delivered on a silver platter.

Excellent post.

The numbers are less important than the direction of the trend.

That would be suicide for BMW!

I'm doing my part by saving a pair of them right now. :AH-HA_wink:

You also know that a shift of such sales is occuring now. With Toyota fleeting more and GM less. Just sayin.

You still miss the mark with me. Sure, my center of interest is GM (specifically Chevy and Pontiac), but my taste in cars runs both to other domestics and certain imports. All of which you should know by now. There are Fords I like, a host of Mopars, more than a few BMWs, Jags, Astons, and so on. I also have a soft spot for extinct brands such as International Harvester, and Studebaker. I have a fascination with the unusual as well. So, things like a Jensen Interceptor, or my old Maserati Biturbo interest me. I respect and enjoy a wide range of cars and trucks from various countries. I reserve the hate for Toyota, and have a general dislike of Asian cars. I admit that freely. Otherwise, it is a car by car thing with me.

Not true, read more carefully. :AH-HA_wink: EDIT: You should know me better than that by now, OC!

I get that. I'm usually something of a purist with swaps, but I am such a torque junkie that a V8 swap would make me look at this car while a stock unit would let me walk past it.

Yeah, the original Z car was a blatant E-type rip-off. But I'd still call it the best Japanese design ever. There is one of those Celicas rotting in a yard around here. It has to have been sitting for at least a decade, and was pretty clean when parked. It may be a product of a company I hate, but it is still a shame to see a clean car go to waste like that. Some people.

Still not a Toyota, and highly modified, but this is the best looking Japanese design of all time IMO: By CaminoLS6 With an American V8 conversion, I might even consider one. Such a far cry from the blandness of today.

Glad you're enjoying it, Ted. I wracked my brain to find a Japanese car that made me look twice, and I found one! Not a Toyota, and I wouldn't actually buy one, but it did catch my eye. By CaminoLS6 They look better in person.

I'll try to do some in the next few days.

It's been a few years now, but the last time I was in the local BMW place there were manuals everywhere. Regional thing maybe?

I went back to the Pontiac store the other day and gave their 888 G8 GT the quick once over. I only sat in it for a minute, popped the hood and doors, and walked around it a few times. It was nice to actually lay hands on one, and I want that ST even more now. This morning I saw a red Solstice in a lineup of traffic surrounded by a sea of bland, silver and beige mid size sedans. Man did it ever stand out! I could never be part of that conformist parade - hats off to the Solstice owner! In the WAWA parking lot there were some interesting high-end cars: -An S600 V12 sedan ( friggin huge, ugly fender flares, nice sound to the exhaust) -A CLS500 ( I still love the lines of that car) - A super nice M3 convertible in white. - A new Denali XLT Plus an assortment of lexus stuff and other less interesting cars, trucks and suvs.

I know I've pounced on people for thinking of things like NAV as "must haves", but in no way would I buy a new car without A/C. I hate hot, humid, summer weather so much that I even want any classics I drive to have working A/C. I would make an exception for the right car, but it is always a letdown when I see "no A/C" in the description.

You guys know I love Holden, but those stickers need to stay firmly in the past (and off of my ST). :AH-HA_wink:

You like to live dangerously, don't you?

I like that quite a bit.

Impressive without a doubt.

Damn! My Uncle, who lives in Mass., has one of those trucks. Please let me know what happens with it so I can tell him about it.

I seem to remember arguing with you in the past, right now I can't see for the life of me how that happened.

Thanks for another vantage point on this, Delta. I wish you well in your situation too. One small detail: No one is trying to force me to change my ways, I'm just wondering why someone would allow that to happen (in this case in a truly forced way). So that question at least isn't really about me, except that I'm trying to understand it. I'm way too stubborn to be forced into a change. I guess I'm simply looking for some perspective(s) on the whole notion. Thanks again.

I have no formal training in such things, and I have to admit that I'm not young anymore, but I think I'd be good at that sort of thing. Oh well.