Drew Dowdell

That BMW just looks like a bland, eurocar that isn't even in the same class as the Seville. It has no presense. In the Seville you have arrived. In the BMW you simly got there.

Put the BMW next to any other euro car of the same vintage and it is completly anonymous. That it handles great is simply an interesting footnote, it doesn't make it a luxury car. Corvettes handles great also.

1979 Volvo


1979 Saab


Bimmer

They are reluctent to turn back because the best selling cars are all front wheel drive. Add up the yearly sales of of the following: All GM W-bodies Camry Accord Taurus/Sable You'll come up with a number that is larger then the combined sales of all of BMW and MB.

The droopy nose on the front makes it look like a mini-van

was it just me or did C&D trash every other make, and then dismiss the issues with the 3 series and score it #1  :blink: 
Just a little question for thought:

Why would a "professional, non-bias, and respectable" automotive mag, perform a comparison/peformance test in the desert in anywhere from 98-116 degree heat and then find it strange that the perfomance figures weren't that different? :unsure:

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Seriously, the bimmer even broke down on them....

I have this C&D in front of me.... lets see here: A 42k Bimmer probably at or near sticker or a 36k CTS that I can probably get at employee discount around 32k. 42K will get you a LOT of CTS after employee discount. Certainly one with NAV what would kill their complaint about the dash screens. Or..... A 47k ?! Volvo... when I could get a CTS-v for probably the same price. It's just another case of C&D stacking the deck so they get the outcome they are looking for.

Oh... and you being abnormal and me being mad are not mutually exclusive ;-)

Seeing as they're all in the same lot, it would make it incredibly easy to end the problem with a few laps in a monster truck.

By Hertz special do you literally mean that?

Nice choice, by the way. :)

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Well Hertz/Avis/Alamo... it was one of those. I did all the negotiation 350 miles from the actual car. Got her a 6 year, 60,000 mile warrenty lumped in to boot.

Take a look at that picture of the Accord and see how the center stack flows into the console so well. See how those oversized buttons look so high quality. Sit in an Accord and sit in a Lacrosse and you will see that there are some areas where the Lacrosse still falls short in terms of material quality. Keep this in mind: the Lacrosse is actually supposed to be from a higher class of cars, it's in a higher price range and is from a "premium" carmaker. Sit in those Accord seats and you'll know the Japs must also be freakin' massage therapists. Feel the door panels and they all feel solid and like they'll last forever. The stalks, buttons, panels, all feel like they are the right level of quality for this car. The Lacrosse is nice, and a lot of it is very high quality, but the design is still lacking, and the materials are still a step behind.

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Are you doing any of your assesment of the LaX from actually sitting in one or spending any reasonable amount of time behind the wheel? The impression you are giving is that all your assesment is from those pictures.

I think you need to go twiddle the knobs in a LaX before compairing them to an Accord because they are one of the things on the LaX that made me think Audi. The center stack in the LaX does flow rather well. If you're going to go after a poor flowing stack from GM, feel free to attack my CTS for it, but the LaX shouldn't be on your hit list. The LaX does have softer seats, the accord has firmer ones. That is a personal preference thing. I don't find either seat particularly comfortable but I prefer the LaX to the Accord. One of the things that sold me on my CTS was that the seat felt like it was designed specifically for my butt.

$29,000 for a LaCrosse is just laughable. I'm a huge GM fanatic but I would NEVER recomend a V6, FWD midsize car to anyone looking for a $25,000+ car. It's absurd.

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Why? Given that budget, what would you want your mother to drive in a Boston winter? Keep in mind that she's probably not going to invest in snow tires, she's probably not the best in bad weather. I much rather have my mother is a relatively tame FWD car with decent stability, some luxury features, and good looks.

That's why I picked out a nice V6 Aurora, Hertz special for her. Fairly loaded for a V6 model, 6,000 miles, $26,000. It's a 2001 that she bought in 2002.

A LaX CXS would be a great replacement for her.

Oh look, they decided to update the Dodge Raider.

Important safety tip. When you see clouds that are green, swirling, or green and swirling, take cover. I don't know what it is, but when clouds turn green, there is always something nasty afoot.

My mortgage on the stone house behind my car in this pic


is $739 a month including taxes and insurance.

3 bedroom
2 bath
fireplace
1 car garage
1/3 acre land
3 porches
hardwood floors throughout
15 minutes from downtown Pittsburgh.

Cool? Again? It would have to have been cool in the first place. Now if we're talking cool compaired to a Cadillac valiant attempt at an entry-level luxury car.... then sure... a Civic is cool.

Nissan Pulsar

all of them If B.A.S. is as portible as they say, and they've tested it on engines up to a 5.3, then there is no reason to not make it available on every model in the GM line.

is this like the silverado and sierra hybrids systems?

I dont think the image of Caddy as a hybrid would be a good thing.

I mean that when i think hybrid i think small compact car that looks like a piece of plastic that is stamped. its not only me a couple of my buddys think that to.

I have to realize hybrid good gas guzzling car not as good.

GM has been at hybrids for 30 years now and there first MAJOR hybrids are just now coming out.

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Why are Lexus Hybrids good, yet Cadillac hybrids would be bad?

People are really clamoring for the RX400h.

If I ever find out which three people voted "I don't even want it back." I'll kick their virtual buts! <_<

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Bring it.... Sixty8

Dealer group 1: Chevy Dealer group 2: Saturn Olds <I wish> Dealer group 3: Buick Pontiac GMC Dealer group 4: Cadillac Saab Hummer

We have a suprisingly large gay population here on C&G

I've felt for a while that AMC was about 15 years ahead of it's time. If they could have survived <minus Reneult> until about 1992, they would have been fine.

Yeah but those DSLs will win a lot of friends.

Aaaaand.. that's a wrap folks!

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Dude! Where's my Nissan!?!

Some more beauties...

And the most beautiful one of all.. a lime green '76 Caprice complete w/woodgrain. :lol:

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The Titanic finally reached port, eh?

That has not been a good seller for Lexus.

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That's a Lexus? I thought it was a Mazda.... woops :lol: