Drew Dowdell

I think over 90% of the Rivieras sold were sold with the V8. Reading again, I missed that the Riv also had a Buick 4.1 V6 starting in 1980... but with 125hp, I can't imagine anyone buying them.

Interesting..if I'm not mistaken, the E/Ks of that generation each had their own divisional engines, maybe only had the diesels in common (or was the diesel only at Cadillac?) That statement differs vastly depending on the year. At Cadillac, the engine options are the same regardless of it being a Seville or Eldorado. In 1979 - all three had an Olds 350 gasser with the diesel as an option for all years. Buick had a 3.8 Turbo V6 option. In 1980 - Buick and Olds kept the 350, Cadillac went with the 368 except in CA where it kept the 350. in 1981 - Buick and Olds went to the 307, Cadillac went to the 8-6-4. Olds gains the 4.1 V6 to negative fanfare. in 1982 - Buick and Olds unchanged, Cadillac goes to the 4100 V8. All three gain 4-speed automatic with overdrive. in 1983 - no changes to note in 1984 - last year for the unloved Olds 4.1 V6. In 1985 - Last year for this body - 307 gains some upgrades with very modest bumps in power. Last year for 350 diesel... because GM finally got it right by this point.

True, but each iteration is out there in numbers - so parts are easy for each one. That, and the commonality is huge through most of those years. Same goes (to a lesser extent, of course) for the Olds 307. I wonder what necessitated the starter motor change for the E-body - kind of surprising that GM couldn't engineer a way around that given the longitudinal mounting of the engine. T'was the starter. I found an AC Delco reman without the need for a core so I can keep the old one and have it rebuilt if I choose. Went on fairly easily except for the patches of pouring rain moving through the area while I was trying to do the work. Starts much faster too. Found the reason that GM couldn't engineer the same starter on the E-bodies. According to my 1981 Oldsmobile shop manual, the RWD Y-Vin cars (Olds 307) all have the starter on the right side if you're facing the engine. On the E-bodies, they couldn't put the starter there because..well.. that's where the transmission is. Some of you fellow historians might recall that on the GM E-bodies, though the engine is longitudinal, it is offset slightly to the left (again if you're facing the front of the car). The transmission actually sits below and to the right of the engine. The starter on the E-bodies is on the left side. In my case at least, I think I prefer the mounting done on the E-body. The RWD Y-Vin cars look like a more difficult job from an access standpoint. Camino... the number of times the phrase "All - Except Toronado" appears under a schematic in the 1981 Oldsmobile shop manual is staggering. They would have been better off printing a 1981 E/K body manual for the 3 divisions that used this chassis.

*excessive hill jumping

I'd get a set of these for the Toronado, but I assume they only work on 4wd vehicles.

uhm.... how?

yes

I really like that Red Tahoe. I would have snagged that for a daily driver myself had you not bought it

Please don't quote the spammers. You are just increasing the number of links they get from C&G when you do that which is what they want. Just report them and I'll take care of it. Also... I don't know what their facination is with this thread..they spam here more than most

Try this pancake mix. I wasn't looking for Gluten free and grabbed it by accident once when picking up other bread mixes. Sub some buttermilk in for the regular milk.... just like grandma used to make.

Johnson Controls has been on a bit of an aquisition bing the past 7 years, I wonder what their debt load is like. Might just be kicking the can here..

where the hell do you guys find this $h!?

okay guys... let's not get all SMK with the numbers here...

I would not be at all surprised if we see this here as a Verano convertible

"Let's take the state of California for an example. The state passed laws requiring that utilities obtain at least about 1/3 of their power from wind, solar or other renewable sources. The result is that Californians now pay about 14.5 cents per kWh. Compared to states like Indiana or Texas where it is about 8 cents and 7.5 cents respectively." - Texas has a competitive power market with over 400 companies competing on price. California no longer has a competitive market, so you're not comparing apples to apples here. "Wind, Solar and the rest while attractive in their various niches wouldn’t generate enough power to provide for more than 20~25% of today’s power demands even when fully exploited." - Incorrect. The American Mid-West is the Saudi Arabia of wind energy. Additionally, there are newer wind turbine technologies that allow turbines to operate at lower wind speeds and double or triple output at the wind speeds current turbines typically run. New Jersey has already mitigated the need for new power plants by installing rooftop solar across the state. Germany is able to generate 50% of their energy needs via solar power during the summer. We have a much more southern and much sunnier climate than Germany. "Why Nuclear generation? Because it is the only alternative source of energy with sufficient generation density to power out civilization’s power demands." - I like nuclear as well, and it would be a great complimentary power source to wind and solar mentioned above. "So... yes... I'll say “Drill baby drill”!" - the longer that oil in our territory stays in the ground, the more valuable it becomes as other sources dry up.

I was told quite pointedly this week by some people at GM that the General is working hard at getting all of the volume sellers where they want first before working on the special cars that most of us around here wish for. They want their cars to be at or near the top of each major segment first. Have a good base and then work on the fun stuff.

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I would guess that any vehicle that is Opel based would be first in line to get it. So in the US that means Encore, Verano, and Regal.... though I believe Regal to be least likely to get it in the current generation.

I call for an Encore....

I don't think the government told Lexus do to that. There is no law against bench seats.

Moderator's note: Please steer clear of the EV debate in this thread. There is a very good debate to be had about the way franchise laws are set up and I don't want that to go off the rails by us getting back into the Value of the EV debate. There are plenty of other threads for that.

You would think if they were real journalist, they would know a hatchback from a feakin wagon. Course the problem today is most journalist are pushing an agenda rather than reporting neutral news. You would think if they were a real journalist, they would have a grasp on the English language and reading comprehension.....

for that kind of money, those chains that act as doors better be original....

I have always been interested in flying but too chicken to try it myself.

rough idle and subaru boxer almost go together naturally.