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    • Just because YOU judge the Hummer EV harshly because its not an efficient EV, doesnt make your opinion a correct one.  Your opinion is shyte and false. Your judgment is wrong and stupid.  Ditto for everything else that I just mentioned.  Dodge Hellcat offers a track mode. Its a good enough track car. The Hellcat is not THE best track car around, because it does NOT have the right engineering components for it to be.  YOU know that ESPECIALLY as a car enthusiast that you are.  But you will say ANYTHING just to be a contrarian to what the CORRECT response should be.  You do you.   As far as the EV rent-a-car thing goes. 250-320 mile range gets you driving in a city for about 4 days without recharging.  Same as a a gas powered car.  When vacationing, one also walks in a city of vacation to get to actually see the phoquing city.  Boston, New York, Montreal, Houston, Los Angeles, Chicago, ALL have GREAT restaurants.  AWESOME shopping quarters.  Boston, New York, Montreal all have GREAT historic sites that walking is the ONLY way of exploring.   Driving is NOT an option when doing these things.  The EV, if need be, gets to be charged during THIS time period when exploring the vacationing destination on foot therefore no time wasted on your part charging the EV... Going to the beach in Greece or Miami or South Carolina...the EV is just used getting to the beach. For 3-4 hours, you are swimming and playing water games and eating on the boardwalk. The EV gets to be charged during this time... Going to Disneyworld or Land in Anaheim or Orlando or any other theme park. If you dont hotel in the park itself and have to drive there, the EV gets charged while you explore the theme park. Its fair to say that one spends a good 6 hours at these parks...  Plenty of time to get a FULL charge. As with ALL scenarios I mentioned... Full charge means 250-320 mile range...  YOU know that as YOU have mentioned that to several posters that may have range anxiety about 250-320 mile ranges...   That would be 3-4 days of driving great distances per day.  Vacation time is usually 2 weeks...   Walking and exploring on foot is done probably MOST of that 2 week span.  Even if one goes to Montreal and then wants to go to Quebec City.  One walks downtown Montreal. Then one walks Old Montreal. The EV is fully charged and no need to charge up going to Quebec City.  One charge. When one gets to Quebec City, one recharges the EV. But one WALKS to see Quebec City. No need to drive as Quebec is small and quaint.  On that same charge, one goes back to Montreal, back to the hotel.  One charges up the EV while fine ding in Montreal and 250-320 mile range is at your disposal again. One gets to drive 3-4 days before one gets to leave to go back home.  Montreal's airport is less than 15 miles away from the downtown core anyway...  15 miles...    250-320 mile range for the average EV in 2022... Again... your judgement is wrong. Whether you are being a contrarian, obtuse on purpose or just forgetful on some facts and dont apply them properly, your opinion is shyte and false. Your judgment is wrong and stupid and its annoying as phoque when the same shyte is spewed by you time and time again...   
    • What in the fck are you talking about?  Agree to disagree, I just don't think that's a good application for EV adaption.    It's a vehicle sold to the public. It isn't a commercial-only vehicle. David posted the article (which was just a link to the actual article. I'm not sure why he didn't just post the actual article.) and I laughed at the inefficiency of it. Just because they're not advertising it as efficient doesn't mean efficiency doesn't matter, hence the artlcie written AND David's link about it's efficiency.  Why not get on David for posting a link to ANYTHING related to the Hummer's efficiency? If the efficiency doesn't matter, why even post an article about it?  Oh, I'm sorry Dodge literally advertises their vehicle to be track capable. Do I need to post the screen shots from their own website again or are you just going to dismiss them as if the company isn't advertising it as a track car?  So, on one hand you're saying that the company needs to advertise the vehicle to do a thing(efficiency - Hummer) but on the other hand if the company does advertise the vehicle to do a thing (track capable - Hellcat Challenger) you'll dismiss it because you don't see it as a track-ready car.  I guess you're just trying to have it both ways. 
    • You are just a contrarian... Nobody is DEBATING that it is atrocious.  Because it IS. But what the Hummer EV is NOT, and NEVER was meant to be, nor was it EVER marketed as such, the Hummer ICE or EV was never a Prius from Toyota... I dont care what you would say about a 1000hp/tq getting 8 mpg.   But its comically hypocritical of you to bash the EV Hummer in this way and downright Fox News style, Tucker Carlson/Kellyanne Conway/Alex Jones/ misinformation/alternative facts messed up opinion is what you are doing right now.  Same as the Hertz EV rent-a-car... Its annoying as hell what you are doing.  Judge the phoquing thing as as what it is, NOT for what it isnt...  Its the same phoquing thing when we debated about the Dodge Challenger Hellcat and Tesla Model S Plaid not being track cars and you slyly and connivingly tried to troll your way in telling me I should have a problem with Dodge because they offer in the TV screen thing an option called "track mode" on the Hellcat... But hey...you do you.   PS    
    • Well stated Oldshurst.. Now.. Motorweek did say when they reviewed the 1992 Oldsmobile Eighty Eight that it looked like an Infiniti in the rear:     When I see Infinti Q45, I see what Oldsmobile Aurora was aiming for and how GM was trying to turn the Oldsmobile brand to a import fighter:  
    • Regardless, it's still atrocious. I'd say the same thing if it were an ICE with 1000hp/tq getting 8mpg. It's one of those vehicles that's comically inefficient. 
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