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    Fiat Looking To Add A Third Model

    William Maley

    Editor/Reporter - CheersandGears.com

    March 19, 2012

    Fiat's U.S. lineup is only made up of one vehicle, the 500 and its variations. That will soon grow to two when the 500L makes its Atlantic crossing next spring. But Fiat U.S. chief Tim Kuniskis revealed to the Detroit Free Press there could be three Fiats.

    Kuniskis wouldn’t go detail what the third model could be, but he did say that styling will always be their emphasis and that “any car we sell has got to be different.”

    So, what could be the third vehicle? Well, it could be either the Panda, Punto, or a unknown vehicle.

    Source: Detroit Free Press

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    Driving around Kirkland this weekend, I saw 2 or 3 of these being test driven and have to say they are still BUTT UGLY!!!

    They are narrow, very tall cars with their donut tires and going around a corner I noticed considerable body roll. They look cheap and the people driving them look uncomfortable in the cramped interior.

    Not impressed and in regards to their Styling, they need to wake up and find someone that understand the definition as I do not read or hear positive things about the little car. The local Seattle times review was not at all positive about the car.

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    2QuickZ's

    I know a couple of guys with 500's and they both love them! They have both offered to let me drive theirs but i have always politely declined. One of the guys is 6'5" and he says he is very comfortable in it! That's hard to believe. He said the key was he didn't get a sunroof because they eat a quite a bit of head room. It's kind of amusing to see that big a guy get out of that small of a car

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