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  2. The head of Hyundai's N performance division, Albert Biermann said luxury automakers are too focused pm technology that doesn’t give value to customers. “It’s all marketing, first of all. “How many people really buy it later on? Much of this exists for media, to give a hype, to show the technology level. But how many people really buy it later on?" said Biermann to Australian outlet Drive. “If the tech will fail, you’re just adding the burden to the buyer, right?” We can assume some of the tech Biermann is referring to are things like gesture controls for the infotainment system or perfume diffusers. Biermann also brought up the example of a camera that looks at the road and makes adjustments to the suspension, calling it stupid. “In our G90 you will not find any air suspension, or active roll-bars, or active whatever. A camera sensing the road, and this stuff. It’s stupid. We have a solid Hyundai steel platform, tonnes of high-strength steel – okay, it’s a little bit heavier than the other cars – and we have adjustable shock absorbers, and that’s it. We still outpace the S-Class in the double lane-change in the Consumer Reports. We almost beat the BMW, without all the fancy stuff,” said Biermann. Biermann explained that Genesis will be focusing on simple technologies to make them reliable. He said Hyundai's chairman, Chung Mong-koo said he wants all Hyundai and Genesis models to be “like new” after a decade on the road. On one hand, Biermann has a point. Luxury cars are notorious for being expensive to keep on the road, partly due to all the technology equipment fitted to them. On the other hand, those technologies are a big selling point on these vehicles. Buyers use these to justify the price and they are a cool party trick to show to friends and family. Source: Drive.com.au View full article
  3. The head of Hyundai's N performance division, Albert Biermann said luxury automakers are too focused pm technology that doesn’t give value to customers. “It’s all marketing, first of all. “How many people really buy it later on? Much of this exists for media, to give a hype, to show the technology level. But how many people really buy it later on?" said Biermann to Australian outlet Drive. “If the tech will fail, you’re just adding the burden to the buyer, right?” We can assume some of the tech Biermann is referring to are things like gesture controls for the infotainment system or perfume diffusers. Biermann also brought up the example of a camera that looks at the road and makes adjustments to the suspension, calling it stupid. “In our G90 you will not find any air suspension, or active roll-bars, or active whatever. A camera sensing the road, and this stuff. It’s stupid. We have a solid Hyundai steel platform, tonnes of high-strength steel – okay, it’s a little bit heavier than the other cars – and we have adjustable shock absorbers, and that’s it. We still outpace the S-Class in the double lane-change in the Consumer Reports. We almost beat the BMW, without all the fancy stuff,” said Biermann. Biermann explained that Genesis will be focusing on simple technologies to make them reliable. He said Hyundai's chairman, Chung Mong-koo said he wants all Hyundai and Genesis models to be “like new” after a decade on the road. On one hand, Biermann has a point. Luxury cars are notorious for being expensive to keep on the road, partly due to all the technology equipment fitted to them. On the other hand, those technologies are a big selling point on these vehicles. Buyers use these to justify the price and they are a cool party trick to show to friends and family. Source: Drive.com.au
  4. Ford News: Ford Plans Downtime At 5 North America Plants

    Totally makes sense, the auto's that many are not buying are in glut mode, so stop productions, sell through hoping to minimize rebates to maximize profits and then start back up once inventories fall. I have to questions if the 1,2 & 3 week shutdowns is enough though since the sales of those types of auto's are falling like a rock especially as we go into fall and with Winter. I would think getting to a 45-60 day inventory would be best.
  5. How is this any better than this? To me both the DS Egg above the the Lincoln MKC Egg below are butt ugly and a waste of time. Been in the Lincoln and it is pathetic. What I see online is not much better. The DS7 looks like another generic CUV that we already have but with a weird to me interior. So pass, see much better options than those product lines are offering.
  6. That would be a failure for the fat lazy Americans! Have to disagree with you as I find NO CREATIVITY in their Egg shape ugliness.
  7. Ford News: Ford Plans Downtime At 5 North America Plants

    “Planned downtime”. The words we are looking for here are “temporary layoffs”. And 162 days for the Continental? Holy crap! That’s not good for a car that’s been out barely a year.
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  9. Ford Plans Downtime At 5 North America Plants

    Ford will be temporarily shutting down production lines at five of their North American plants to help cut down on the inventory of slow-selling models. According to Automotive News, Ford will be shutting down both of their plants in Mexico. The Cuautitlan assembly plant, which is home to the Fiesta will be down for three weeks. Hermosillo which builds the Fusion and Lincoln MKZ will take a two-week break. In the U.S., Flat Rock (Mustang and Continental) and the Transit production line at Kansas City will also be down for two weeks. Michigan Assembly in Wayne will be down for just a week. It is unknown when the shut downs will begin. "We are continuing to match production with customer demand, as we always do, and we are on track for our dealer inventories to remain at planned levels by year-end," a Ford spokeswoman said in an email. At the start of this month, Ford had an 87-day supply of Fusions, 103-day supply of Transits, 111-day supply of Mustangs, and a 162-day supply of Continentals. Automakers try to shoot for a 65 to 70-day supply of vehicles. Source: Automotive News (Subscription Required), Reuters
  10. Ford will be temporarily shutting down production lines at five of their North American plants to help cut down on the inventory of slow-selling models. According to Automotive News, Ford will be shutting down both of their plants in Mexico. The Cuautitlan assembly plant, which is home to the Fiesta will be down for three weeks. Hermosillo which builds the Fusion and Lincoln MKZ will take a two-week break. In the U.S., Flat Rock (Mustang and Continental) and the Transit production line at Kansas City will also be down for two weeks. Michigan Assembly in Wayne will be down for just a week. It is unknown when the shut downs will begin. "We are continuing to match production with customer demand, as we always do, and we are on track for our dealer inventories to remain at planned levels by year-end," a Ford spokeswoman said in an email. At the start of this month, Ford had an 87-day supply of Fusions, 103-day supply of Transits, 111-day supply of Mustangs, and a 162-day supply of Continentals. Automakers try to shoot for a 65 to 70-day supply of vehicles. Source: Automotive News (Subscription Required), Reuters View full article
  11. Oh yeah, They will be lined up out the door to buy a Concorde. I mean this was a car that even rental car agencies didn't want. The market doesn't need another near luxury brand or car even because all the mainstream cars are offering electronic everything, driver assist tech, leather, moonroof, heated steering wheel etc. I don't see a place for Chrysler in the market, they have 2 products both of which are in sales decline.
  12. Random Thoughts Thread

    Classic Alfa.. "Some also found the Alfa’s Italian electrics a little buggy, ..." MT's Best Driver's Car talking about the Quadrifoglio.
  13. Awesome!! The more the merrier, especially if they bring along their funky little hatchbacks and pseudo-CUV's. At least they have some creativity in their designs.
  14. Not if you’re upside down from trying to take a corner like you’re in a Porsche and not a Jeep.
  15. Silly Drew... It's a Jeep! It's a good way to get out of ditches too!
  16. And my information came from an unbiased third party source for manufacturer discounts only and FCA was tops overall. Yours were dealer rebates, hence my point of distinction so if you have a problem with the unbiased facts....
  17. Genesis News: Genesis G70 is Korea's 3-Series Challenger

    @Drew Dowdell Sorry because I will derail it again...but I gotta post this. I just gotta. The reason for the G Wagon is to appease NATO régulations... For decades the US shoved this shyte airplane down Germany's throat Its payback time for Germany to force the US Military to buy the G Wagen...all in the name of NATO...and revenge... OK...back to the boring discussions of a Hyundai luxury car.
  18. Genesis News: No N Treatment for Genesis Models

    Some have 3 letters...some have names. I suppose using a single letter is an easy way to do it. I'm surprised no one has done 'Z' yet for a performance line, since nothing goes higher than Z in the alphabet...
  19. Acptually my information comes from www.chevrolet.com and www.dodge.com. GM is the same or higher discounts on comparable vehicles. If you have a problem with that........ I would be completely fine with a base R/T with the new handling package, 8 speed auto, sound group, and sunroof. Lots of standard features (ditching the puny 5.0 screen for the 7 incher makes a hue difference in the interior aesthetics of the base cars). In destroyer grey or Granite [please. Or worse. Much more excited about the ecodiesel than I ever would be a hellcat in a Wrangler.
  20. Genesis News: No N Treatment for Genesis Models

    Every 'performance arm' doesn't HAVE to be branded with yet another letter of the alphabet, does it? Just so wretchedly conformist... and in an era of increasingly homogenized vehicles, one of the last chances to stand apart.
  21. Genesis News: No N Treatment for Genesis Models

    It's all about branding. FCA has SRT, Ford has ST, RS and formerly SVT. Chevy has SS. Nissan has Nismo, Toyota has TRD, Lexus has F, Audi has S and RS...etc. Some of these designations have meanings, some may not...SRT stands for Street & Racing Technology, 'M' stood for Motorsport, AMG is the initials of the founders of the independent performance tuning company AMG that was later absorbed by MB, etc. Maybe 'N' is short for a word that means performance in Korean. Or not. I can understand Hyundai jumping on the performance bandwagon and wanting to add some spicy kimchi to their appliances. I suppose Kia will get in on the act also (though the Stinger seems to be their performance model).
  22. Random Thoughts Thread

    ^ This must be an older one then. Unconventional to a degree in that the horizontal split isn't at the beltline, but halfway into the body. Saw a pic of a BMW (X5 I think) done the same way. Another option... tho the dual-action gate is still the most versatile.
  23. Genesis News: No N Treatment for Genesis Models

    WTF is an 'N'? Is this really what the industry has come to- MB has 'A', BMW has 'M', Cadillac has 'V', Jag has 'R' and hyindai has 'N'? And ocnblu is bemoaning homogenization? Already armpit deep in it, Bill.
  24. Genesis News: Genesis G70 is Korea's 3-Series Challenger

    Sad but true... The US has a couple hundred G Wagens in their military.
  25. Genesis News: Genesis G70 is Korea's 3-Series Challenger

    I thought from the other article it wasn't until 2022
  26. Genesis News: Genesis G70 is Korea's 3-Series Challenger

    I wonder how long they will wait till offering Hybrid and EV in the Genesis car and CUV product line, 12-18 months or more like 24-36 months?
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