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Many people say the Aurora replaced the Toronado even though there were 4 years between the two simply because the Aurora was on the same platform as the Riviera and had a rear that paid homage to the Toronado. Frankly, I think it's weak. A sedan does not replace a coupe AFAIC and since the 98 and Aurora overlapped for only one year with the Aurora taking over the flagship position of the mainstream sedan lineup (not the niche coupe market) that is really replaces the 98. Toronado was killed for extremely low sales, and a replacement was therefore not necessary or desired IMO.

awesome! i can make it then...anywhere from the 9th-15th. lets say the 14th though cuz its a saturday, and because the 15th is my bday and i am likely to be hungover that day

no clue yet man...id ONLY be able to make the last sunday if that is indeed the last day for it (damn january 1st being on a sunday!)...and how long would it go? i just do not know if it would be feasible for me to go to the show after getting into LA that morning...so put me in as a big ole ? and maybe as the time draws closer we will have a better handle on it all

Why would the government do that? They didn't for Enron. Sorry, but not even the unions could elect Kerry; I really don't think they have that much political pull on a national level. Michigan might try to do something, but if they started subsidizing THOSE pensions, they couldn't discriminate against subsidizing others' pensions. I don't see it happening. If they strike, they will be up sh!t creek without a paddle.

wait what did i do? i didnt say anything mean!

Relax, hardly any C&Gers are European.

hmmmmmmmm

...but other than the Lambda what other Buicks would be in a testing stage? Velite hasn't even been given a platform yet and the RWD stuff is still several years away.

Heh just messin BV just messin

I think BVs just waiting to shower until he can do it with you http://www.cheersandgears.com/public/style_emoticons//AH-HA_wink.gif

Buick Lambda! Nice work CD/BP!

I don't know if I can make it. My plane comes into LAX around 9:30 on that second Sunday (the 8th). Booo to that.

Oooooh...now what was it you tease?!

Well of course it's been done before! Every mechanic takes dashes apart from time to time... :lol:

I like buckets and a console shifter myself, but I agree that these new "column" shifters would be great for Buick. But I know it's wishful thinking as GM would never have the balls to do it until it were standard on Hyundais.

What's wrong with the last Sunday? Honestly, that's prolly going to be my best bet. Do we have LAIAS dates? I need that info before I can commit.

I love it! EXCEPT it needs to lose the spoiler. But I think it looks hot otherwise!!

I can't believe I haven't contributed to this thread yet... Even though it's a POS I love the way my M-Class drives...when it drives. But favorite post 1990 SUVs? Here, in no real order: Explorer Sport: SRX: Tahoe (both): Mountaineer: Bravada: Torrent (prefer it to Equinox): Cayenne: The previous were not in any real order, but this one is my favorite SUV: Land Rover Range Rover:

I broke my foot tripping over a trash bag once. Ended my very (un)promising soccer career.

WHO IS GOING TO PULL THE DOOR PANELS?? Not consumers...maybe mechanics, and frankly I'd like easy removal so the parts don't break when they ARE removed... I think your criticisms border on the ridiculous to the inane.

HAHAHAHAHA doomsday much? Seriously...no.

What is the timeframe for this? I can say that in the last 5 or so years there has been no indication that GM's grass has been green...in fact it's been kinda brown. It really could go either way, though. Accounting isn't exact by any means and involves vast amounts of estimation.

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Are those guages new? I think this should be sold in America. It would definitely add something to Pontiac's lineup, namely a car that doesn't suck.

HAHAHA!! Where did you get that?