G. David Felt

Too True, So many Hellcats stolen in less than 60 seconds. Latest robbery of 6 from a dealership that had it happen with the last order of Hellcats they had too. Dealership been hit twice with having them all ripped off.

@oldshurst442 @Robert Hall As I sit here working, I started to laugh as the image in my mind formed of a bible thumping individual arriving at Sunday church in their Demon 170, Swinger, Black Ghost, etc. One can only imagine what would be going through the heads of the people. ? Be interesting to see the final details over the last year of Camaro and what Ford does with the Mustang.

@oldshurst442 @Robert Hall As I watched the Demon 170 reveal, when they gave the Name, the online crowd was so disappointed. So many pointed to the evil little leprechaun they used to tease this car. Many thought it would be named using some of the evil Leprechaun names like "Killian" or "Mordecai". Many thought they would use actual Demon names such as "Succubus" or "Incubi". End result, I am sure there were Legal concerns about the naming of the auto and they already owned the Demon name, but I still feel this is one of the biggest let downs by a auto company after all the buildup.

This is a well know supply issue as the ID.4 for the North American Market was all built in Germany and shipped here. Now that their Tennessee plant is up, Q3 and Q4 were records sales of ID.4 in North America and 2023 is expected to be a banner year for VW in EV sales. This was from an story dated Oct 2022. As they were starting to build and get things going here in the U.S., VW started to hold off sending ID.4 EVs to the U.S. Q3 was the first actual production of ID.4 EVs built in the U.S. 6,657 were built in Q3 2022. Q4 2022 they sold 9,439 ID.4 EVs. Volkswagen of America (VWoA) reports total year 2022 sales - Volkswagen US Media Site US: Volkswagen ID.4 Hit New Sales Record In Q3 2022 (insideevs.com)

Tesla has NEVER delivered on Price and Musk at Investor day already said their focus will be on the top end Cybertruck, a $100,000 truck, so again limited production. Tesla has talked about a $35,000 Tesla 3 and never delivered in large quantities only to then just stop it all together. A $25,000 Tesla will not be here for years. They have no production capacity for it, Mexico is 2 years away at least and would still need to be fitted with equipment so realistically 3 years if they really do have any test mules which reality is they do not. Only in 2022 did Tesla finally start building Cybertruck test mules. Production is now slated end of 2023. So maybe 2027 if someone can actually keep Tesla on schedule, realistically 2030 based on Tesla past performance of building, testing and production. They still have the Roadster 2.0 that has had no movement on yet. GM will beat Tesla to market as will many other Legacy OEMs to a low priced EV before Tesla ever delivers. Show us the proof on the Ford Loss per EV compared to Tesla? Tesla is a Shell game with overpriced stock based on Fan boys. Yes Tesla helped finally move the auto industry along to EVs, but Tesla is not the profit center you think it is. Many up and down stories, but I will go with this one. Here's Why Tesla Is So Profitable | The Motley Fool It is a very positive writeup on Tesla profits, but it also ignores one big problem for Tesla. Products built on a long in the Tooth old platform and as other options come onto the market, Tesla will not be growing like they have. 2023 will be a very bigg difference in the EV market. Musk has preached the BS line of 20 million units a year for years and it will not happen for Tesla. Too many auto companies, too many options for society and Tesla is reaching a point where their CEO will be a hindering problem rather than a positive one as he continues to open mouth and insert foot as he makes thing Political. That will turn off many. It is already showing up with low mileage Tesla on the used market as people trade them in for other EV options.

None of us can really tell how well any EV will sell. When Mercedes-Benz announced their first EV, a certain person said it would outsell everyone else and yet sales have not been that great. They sit on the lots and are taking much longer to sell compared to other brands. Ford, Kia, Hyundai have stated ramps in building their EVs as they are selling everything they produce. GM is ramping up production to ensure quality and especially as their battery plants come online. Right now I really cannot say that EVs will sell big or low, other than they will sell and once we have bigger variety and price points, EVs will sell.

@smk4565 You really have a hard time looking at the future and seeing how things are changing and growing. EV sales have continued to increase, oil production is pretty much maxed out around the world and society is moving forward with EVs. You quote low sales numbers for Cadillac, Kia, Hyundai and never even mention how low they are for the Germans. With that stated, everyone is ramping up as I have stated before especially about battery cell production. Others here have repeated the same message that GM has stated about Lyriq. They have ramped slowly to ensure World Class Quality. As such, it was slow in 2023. January alone production was over 8,000 per GM and reported by many media outlets. They say the first quarter production numbers will be big. If they truly average 8,000 per month based on January production, that is 24,000 LYRIQs for Q1. I have not seen anyone else, other than Tesla produce in those numbers. GM Says Cadillac Lyriq Production Is Finally Ramping Up in a Big Way (thedrive.com) @Robert Hall Dodge has already been working with many police departments as they all move to the Dodge Durango Pursuit SSV SUV. Police officers have in larger and larger numbers preferred an SUV due to the amount of equipment they wear and carry. You can check it out here: 2023 Dodge Durango Pursuit - Stellantis Fleet & Business Solutions This is why Ford and GM dropped police cars and focused on trucks and SUVs. The gear police carry just cannot be handled as well as in an SUV or truck. I agree with you that the Tesla Cybertruck will be a Tesla fan novelty item and I do not see it ever replacing the Fords, GM or Rams. Sales chart still shows the current trend and the Tesla Cybertruck 1.5 million reservations is Global according to Musk, which you cannot trust as he does not deliver on anything except delays and only a portion. Nissan is getting out of the full size truck game, so that is gone. I would be willing to say if they produce and sell their 1 trick pony truck in North America for 200,000 to 250,000 across all of North America, including Canada it still will not be much affect as Robert stated, they do not have all the various configurations that the other trucks have. In regards to the Low EV sales numbers are you basing this on the poor sales of Mercedes to say everyone else will be just like MB. Terrible sales of EVs?

Thank you, cannot remember who it was but someone here on the boards was always talking about the Golf and Polo and how they would be great cars.

I find it amazing that you assume they have nothing ready to go into production. They are retooling the same plant that builds the ICE Charger/Challengers for new Dodge EV cars. Logically it would be assumed that the working Banshee is able to be moved into production and for all we know they have mules of both an EV Charger and Challenger. Chrysler is also supposed to get next year their first EV, the Airflow that will be their first EV on Sale in 2024. Chrysler Airflow Graphite Chrysler Portal Concept that they showed is considered a work in progress for an EV minivan. Dodge Charger Daytona SRT BANSHEE Dodge Charger Daytona SRT Dodge has going on sale this year the Hornet Hybrid in RT and GT versions.

Starting January 2024, the final sixth generation Camaros will come off the assembly line at the Lansing Grand River Assembly Plant. Available in coupe or convertible versions, this latest generation will come in the traditional RS, SS and ZL1 packages. Chevrolet has announced that this 6th generation collectors edition will offer Magnetic Ride Control on the SS and ZL1 1LE editions. The 1LE is a track-focused package giving one a street-legal, track ready 650 hp Camaro. Scott Bell, VP Global Chevrolet made the following statements: “As we prepare to say goodbye to the current generation Camaro, it is difficult to overstate our gratitude to every Camaro customer, Camaro assembly line employee and race fan.” “While we are not announcing an immediate successor today, rest assured, this is not the end of Camaro’s story.” The total run of 2024 Camaro RS and SS will have this special Collectors Edition package as will the very limited run of the ZL1 Camaro. Chevrolet says more information will come out about the 2024 Camaro Line with Collector's Edition Package closer to the start of pre-orders summer of 2023. View full article

Very interesting and I totally have expected this to happen as the auto industry learns how to build battery packs. Tesla hit this also where the connectors to each cell are not exactly where they are supposed to be and you get a short that causes a fire and a total melt down of the battery pack. At least Ford has figured this out and will replace all existing battery packs with one that is built to the right spec and tolerance. Ford F-150 Lightning Recall Reveals Root Cause Of Fire That Stopped Production (insideevs.com)

I am actually a little surprised that @oldshurst442 or @ccap41 have not commented yet. This seems to be right up your alley since VW is not making the ID.2 an suv/suv but an actual car.

We'll I have to say that I am actually disappointed in DODGE. I feel they should have not given into the Demon past buyers and go with the Demon 170 name. It is just so underwhelming. I honestly think they could have done better.

Official, CEO of Dodge just confirmed the ICE Dodge Performance Cars are dead as of Dec 31st 2023 with the new Dodge Banshee Going into production as well as other variations. Dodge CEO explains why he's killing the brand's V8 muscle cars (msn.com)

Nope, they are closing the factory down for conversion to the EV products they will build there, Plant closure is estimated to be between 30 to 60 days. Employees will be called back in specific shifts to learn the new equipment and test the process for assembly of the EVs they will build there. I truly think this is a push to maximize dollars due to the down time for conversion to EV assembly. Every plant that has gone through this change has taken longer than expected and I suspect it will be true for Stellantis as well.

German based Volkswagen revealed their global EV the ID.2all that is expected to be the cost leading EV beating Tesla their biggest EV competitor to offering a coming entry level EV for the masses. The company has stated that the ID.2all is spacious like a Golf and affordable like the Polo with a range of 450 KM or 280 Miles of range on a single charge. This newest addition to the ID family will be built on the new MEB platform. This EV will go into production in 2024 with an on-sale date of European Market 2025 and other markets to follow. Per Kai Grunitz, member of the Brand Board of Management responsible for technical development: “The ID. 2all will be the first MEB vehicle with front-wheel drive. We are exploiting the great flexibility offered by our modular electric drive (MEB) platform and will set new standards in terms of technology and everyday usability with the MEB Entry platform.” ID.2 Specifications released so far: MEB Platform, FWD 166 kW or 223 HP Range 450 km or 280 miles Charging time to 80% is approximately 20 min. 0-100 km/h (0-62mph) = 7second Top speed = 160 km/h or 99.5 mph Length = 4,050mm or 159.5 inches Width = 1,812mm or 71.4 inches Height = 1,530mm or 60.2 inches Wheelbase = 2,600 or 102.4 inches Wheels = 225/40R20 Volkswagen has indicated that this interior is class leading as a spacious, high-quality appearance with a self-explanatory operating system. The ID.2all depending on rear seats up or down offers a generous interior cargo hauling space, 490 to 1,330 litres of space or 17.3 cubic feet to 47 cubic feet of space. The FWD MEB system is of the following look: For the full press release images check out the gallery here: Official Press Release: EN_ID2all_presspack.pdf View full article