gm4life

Another option I will consider is go and talk to a small dealer. There is a family owned business in WV from where my family buys cars from, the owner and his son often travel to the Auction lots in South and looks for cars. You tell him the make, model and color choices of the car. He looks for the right cars at the auctions, calls back to see if he found something exact match or similar. If you like the car he buys it or he keeps on looking. He gives you the car VIN before the bid and asks you to check the history. Once that is clear from your side, he goes ahead and buys the car.

All he asks for is $200 over the auction price, plus the cost of gas (or $100 for trucking if he gets more than one vehicle at that auction) and $100 in paperwork. I think it is a neat idea to run a business.

I know someone who does something similar to that. I would prefer to have the satisfaction of going it alone tho, or with the help of my son...

Private sellers are a guessing game. If you guess right, the benefits usually outweigh those of a dealership purchase. If you guess wrong, you're usually stuck with a vehicle that will drive you crazy. Dealership purchases will generally give you a small warranty to consider and perhaps some perks, but at a set cost to meet a profit. Private sellers can list high, but will be much more flexible on price. As well, it's easier to find exactly what you want through a private seller. Some dealerships will tell you they can find what you're looking for, though. I can't comment on how well they're able, however, per lack of experience with that aspect.

That is exactly what I am worried about. Having said that I guess its worth a try....

But should I wait a while yet or go ahead and make the call?

Ah, good. Then it is at least worth a look....

Well that is what I am figuring.

Actually I think this looks pretty good. Then again I love food, too much actually.

Wasn't there a Senator or somesuch who suggested these bank officers "follow the Japanese lead" and either resign or kill themselves? That pompous bastard got his wish, didn't he.

That is my Senator, a man I have voted for and support.

Congrats! Love the color!

Owned by a kid? That would make me pause.....

I would check to see if it has been modded.....

Have the ad handy, by chance?

No son listed for his parents, it is NOT modded at all, thankfully.

I feel bad for that poor Buick. Very interesting tho, maybe he wanted a woody Estate but could afford it.

Cash talks, BS walks

However it's pretty far to make a cash offer. Whether or not you go for it depends on how much you want it. Is the Special Edition really special enough to be worth the effort? You need to ask yourself that.

I would really prefer one yes a Special Edition, and the fact that it is a coupe is even better. (It has to be an L36 car I do not want nor need the L67!) It would be no problem getting it in June for me, so yeah... I don't know If I should call and offer or just wait a while yet. It is priced high that part of me is really not worried. The other part of me says don't wait... I really don't need another car yet, although by mid August I will.

I think he meant the way you said it came across as sarcastic. I actually saw it the same way initially, until I noticed the "edit" timestamp assuming you added the " Doubled checked, nothing." part during the edit.

That is exactly, what I did hoped onto dealer world and then put that in.

The nice part about private sellers is that they usually are more flexible with the price of the car. Usually, they start much higher then they anticipate the actual price is going to be. Once you make a cash offer, they will have to think if they would rather take the money or sit on the car some more. Also, don't forget the added expenses you are going to have by flying or driving to this location and then driving or towing the car back to your home.

You really have nothing to lose by making an offer.

Yeah I guess your right. But I don't want to make an offer to early, the longer I wait, the more likely they will have extra "give" in the car.

Well, you are not going to find a 2000-2001 Grand Prix at a dealer, so you really have limited choices unless one comes up for auction at Barrett Jackson.

Actually I found more than I thought, at small dealers or used car dealers. So I do understand that but how long should I wait to call and make an offer? I don't want to miss out on it but nor do I want to get screwed on it.

Any advice?

Utility, nothing can match them quite the same way.

Difference is that the minivans aren't relics on old platforms, "real" vans don't sell to anyone besides fleets for the most part.

I like it, people should respect the van/minivan instead of thinking a wagon on stilts is somehow more practical.

He was trying to help, moron.

Thanks Dave!

Ok I am SORRY. Maybe it was just my timing but it came across sarcastic. Again I am very sorry!!! Thank you for your response

Thank you, I was just stunned, I am called lots of things around here but "d-bag" isn't one of them. Well I was just trying to help and I didn't know you were being sarcastic how could I?

I actually enjoyed it. I love those commercials much better than the Toyota Quality Saves you money bull$h! line... It actually showed how much abuse domestic fullsize vans can take!

New Jag XF.

Well I am really busy until nearly mid-June and so nothing will most likely happen between now and then but... I am thinking Cobalt/G5 Coupe with a 5spd. or a 2001-2002 GP GT Coupe. First off I think I have found basically exactly what I want, it has been for sale since early April with no offical price reduction yet. (Still same high price it was listed at.) It is a 2001 Pontiac GP GT SE Coupe in Silver with only 50K on the clock and is in very good shape (at least from the photos). I really do like the car and all the "special edition" extra's on it, problem it is nearly 500 miles away and about 1,500 more than what it is actually worth. I have emailed just to ask a few questions about it and as it turns out it was posted by the owners son so he didn't know anything about price, even though I asked... He did mention his parents would be willing to "give" on the price but not give the car away. I will basically pay KBB retail value for the car but not much more. If I like the car and want to get the "best price" on it how long should I wait? Because I don't want to loose it as SE's (Special Edition) are very hard to find, especailly with low miles! Having said that I won't have time to drive over to get it or pick it up until June. He did say that they would be willing to pick my up at the airport so can you trust stuff like this? I am just a little worried about the whole plan and realize I am half crazy. So what should I do in light of the fact I am really busy, want to get a good price and not miss out on the car? So pass, wait until I have more time, or do something about it now? (or soon next couple of weeks...)

I'd give both of them up for a Solstice targa that didn't cost forty grand...

I knew you'd say that. I'd like all of them.

That's odd, in Canada you can only get the targa as teh GXP

That might be so, but in Canada you get an G3 Sedan and Hatch. A G5 Sedan and Coupe. In America we get two flavors of the Solstice Coupe for once we get something you don't.

Will do. BavAuto.com?

Thanks gm4life.

No problem do a nice long burn-out with that sweet high winding I6 and RWD for me please! :AH-HA_wink:

Congrats, I love those rims. Looks like a sweet car, good luck with her.

Awesome Dbag!!

Why did I get called a name? I checked the site that has the information and there is nothing. I was trying to help you...

I'd just like to point out... "Freedom don't come free" is grammatically incorrect. It should be "Freedom doesn't come free". Just saying.

Smart a$$.