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Just wanted to do a simple calculation of cost per mile based on my location EV vs ICE. Correct me if I am wrong. The numbers are based were I live, I don't care what prices are in California or Washington. From my electric bill the electricity charge is about $0.13kWh with ALL the fees and charges (about $0.09 without). Today gas price in nearby Costco is $2.45 for regular. EV Kona rated for 26/31 kWh (city/highway) per 100 miles. For easier calculation lets take average of 28.5 kWh per 100 miles. So purely on energy/cost calculation it will cost me $3.71 to go 100 miles in EV Kona. ICE Kona MT used has 30.8mpg average fuel economy. So to go 100 miles in ICE Kona will take me 3.247 gallons which will cost me $7.96. Taking average of 12000 miles driving a year EV will cost $445.2 and ICE will cost $955.2. So just on fuel there is a saving of $510 a year on average. Of course there is a savings in maintenance, oil changes and brakes, however on a basic car they should not amount to more than $200-250 a year. Lets take $300. So to get back the extra investment of at least $10k on the price of the car with $800 savings a year will take at least 11-12 years. I like EVs and I think they are the future, but the bottom line TODAY they don't make sense financially.

I know they liked the EV over ICE Kona, however if you look at the price difference (and they choose both vehicles with similar equipment) it is still doesn't make sense financially: $29k for ICE vs $46.6 for EV. Even taking into account $7k deduction for EV it is still a staggering difference of almost $11k for basically the same vehicle. I like EVs but right now it still doesn't make sense financially.

Interesting article at Motortrend MotorTrend

While a hybrid will save somewhat money on idling it will not be as significant as you think. My wife drives currently a hybrid and at idle or even slow speed the engine indeed will be cut off. However, that will be the case only until the battery gets low and than the engine will kick in to recharge the battery. When the weather is cold or hot and the load on the battery is high (plus municipal and police vehicles have additional equipment that will increase the load) the engine turns on quite often.

I am not a truck person, but right now out of the three big ones RAM looks the best by far IMO. Has the nicest looking interior as well.

I usually don't downvote, but you deserve it for sh@tting on somebody's home

Because will be pretty hard to put letter or numbers on NJ plate made in a state shape

I do. My commute is over 40 miles one way.

Yes, sorry, I looked at wrong line on GM however, I saw a figure of 99k for the Mustang.

@dfelt What are you talking about? While overall sale figures for Mustang are down (like pretty much everything in the auto industry) Ford still sold almost 100k Mustangs in 2019. In comparison Caddilac sold 150k TOTAL ALL cars and SUVs, more Mustangs were sold than GM sold Equinoxes which is GMs bread and butter at the moment, this is more than Infiniti sold OVERALL all their cars and crossovers. Ford doesn't need to use this nameplate for this electric crossover, they are still doing pretty good without it.

Found this JD Powers Germany Brand reliability ranking. Kind of interesting

I think Citroen DS line is more luxurious and prestigious than the rest. I kind of like Citroen, they always have been quirky and funky brand, making different cars than the rest. I think Renault and Peugeot are more mainstream. In the 90s Peugeot 205 GTi was a great hot hatch, not sure how good are the current versions are.

In US diesel is close in price to a premium gas. That's why when I was looking at diesel cars it didn't made sense financially, you get better fuel economy with diesel but it is destroyed because of a big difference in price of diesel vs regular unleaded. @balthazar you didn't take into account the higher price of diesel in your calculations. 11000mi/16mi/g= 688 gallons Today's lowest price of regular near me is $2.41, so at today's price it is $1658 11000mi/24mi/g=458 gallons Today's lowest price of diesel is $2.95, so at today's price it will be $1351 You will be saving $307 a year on diesel, if the price difference of diesel truck is $3980, it will take you almost 13 years to make it up on today's gas prices.

34 is CRs overall rating out of 100. It includes number of considerations, one of them reliability. Actually, I am really surprised by some of the cars on the list, some of them were not rated so poorly just last year,

Cool vehicles, I like your RAM. Personally, I like the Mustang, plan to get one myself, hopefully in a year or so. Challenger as you said has a lot of personality, and probably will be comfortable on long trips. M3 is great but will be a money pit, especially if you keep your cars for a long time. A Corvette might be also a good option, there are plenty in good condition for a reasonable money.