trinacriabob

24-Hour Fitness (a chain, mostly in the West)

praising

cooking

Last night, on a major north-south boulevard, a Pontiac G8 in an orange color. It looked fine at night. I don't know if I'd like that orange in the daytime. Nice exhaust note.

Theoretically, isn't an in-line 6 supposed to be sturdier and quieter than a V-6 (at least, in the past)? The 4.0 Jeep L-6 is another one of those bullet-proof legacy engines, right?

rat-tat-tat-tat-tat

East Los Angeles

slum

eyewash

I think this might be my first "yes/no" poll. I like to put the window down, when going over a narrow bridge or driving in a narrow drive between 2 buildings, so I can hear the echo of my engine's sound. I got into this by listening to the awesome sound of a small-block Olds Rocket V8. As for my current car(s), I have to admit that the Regal sounds really hushed for its high mileage. Do you make it a point to listen to your engine's sounds echoing back at you?

highbrow

Did you do it, or take it in? How much was it...(for a "drop&drain" or a flush)? Regal: October: fuel filter change November: spark plug change - about 263K December: trans fluid change (drop and drain) - about 265K Also, wax job in November LaCrosse: this weekend: LOF Also, wash only this weekend

hippie-dippie (sp?)

and , both response to thread: Dubrovnik (it's in Croatia, part of the previous country of Yugoslavia)

trail

free

implant

thin

Fatima

Thanks for the link, moltie, and the info on co-existence of various versions, von. Good Gawd, '75-'76 LeSabre, that's when they were still huge, before the '77 slight "downsize." The little 231 looked funny enough in '76 and '77 Regals. It looked even funnier when the car was a loss leader (ad special) with NO air conditioning and you could see the pavement beneath all around the engine compartment!

Resurrection

dehydration

mini-van

Hey, I've been thinking about how many cycles/versions the 3800 V6 has gone through. I can come up with these: 1) original version developed by Buick in the 1960s (sold to Jeep and then bought back) 2) 1970s version, returning in 1975, adapted for unleaded fuel and updated distributor/electronic ignition (odd-firing) (105 or 110 hp) 3) 1978 version, crankshaft journals are offset (becomes even firing) (105 or 110 hp) - remained well into the 80s, powering GM RWD intermediate series such as Cutlass Supreme, Regal, Grand Prix and Monte Carlo (though Chevy 4.3 V6 powered the latter two toward the end of their lives as RWDs) 4) 1985 version, modified for FWD, powers the FWD Olds 98 and Buick Park Avenue/Electra down-sized full-sizes, and used again in 1987 for the new Pontiac Bonneville but not yet called Series I (about 150 to 165 hp) 5) 1990 version, through 1994 (Series I) - has received the tuned port induction system (about 170 hp) 6) 1995 version, through 2003 (Series II) - weight reduction, crappier intake manifold, and increased horsepower (about 200-205 hp) 7) 2004 version, through 2008 (Series III) - powder coating of metals, revised and stronger intake manifold, and electronic throttle control (about 200 hp) Am I right? Is it a total of 7 versions since its inception? It looks like Series I and Series III are considered the better versions. Comments?