trinacriabob

diamond (a "marquis" cut)

I completely overlooked this, but you are about 90 % right. Some guys do label other guys this way, but not as often.Very observant of you, "Mr. Vahn-koo-vair."

tugboat

Please tell me how this even begins to be nerdy... :AH-HA_wink: we then have several "offenders" on this forum for this infraction alone!

pier

sleeper

rocking chair

I've heard both arguments. However, I will go with Axel on this one.When Olds went away, I turned my attention to Buick and, to a lesser extent, to Pontiac. I think that, if people really liked the brand and had a good rapport with GM, they would stay within the family and go Buick. I don't think Toyota Camries and Honda products have the same feel and packaging as an Oldsmobile, so Buick is the logical choice. At any rate, on this ladder you speak of, the offerings and price points differed by very little.

musician

Well put. The "pie" got smaller. Had the pie remained larger and there were fewer cannibalization issues, Olds might have survived...and today I could be salivating over ordering my Intrigue.

whip

LOL. I was going to do another thread on this topic alone.TRANSLATIONS: Man says about woman: "she's a good woman" - meaning: she's not particularly attractive or makes my blood boil, but I had to settle down and we get along well. Woman (or woman's family) says about man: "he's good to her" - meaning: yeah, he's not the bad boy that gets her wet (did I just write that?), but it could be worse, so I guess he'll do, ...or he's a nerdy Jewish doctor who doesn't make her blood boil but the Neiman Marcus credit card bill is taken care of. I like Satty. He's got a good dose of "street smarts." OK, back to nerdiness.

Ninety-Eight Regency will hate me, but I see Satty's point. And I absolutely love Oldsmobile -- I grew up with them, they were my first cars and I was hoping that there would have been an Intrigue around for my next purchase. $h!, when the announcement came out on TV, my stomach sank and I thought "no sitting at the dealership checking the boxes on an order form to get a sexy Intrigue just the way I want it." A very glum feeling, indeed.I maintain that the problem was duplication. Yes, as Bobo says, Olds was the purveyor of innovative design. That ceased by the time the 70s rolled around - purveying a POS diesel conversion did not help much, either. But, by the 70s and 80s, they duped virtually every Buick model on a 1:1 basis....Toro to Riv, 98 to Park Avenue, 88 to LeSabre, Intrigue to Regal, Ciera to Century, etc...you get the idea. Mind you, I would say that each Olds model was always better looking than its Buick counterpart and I would always opt for the Olds model handily. However, they must have done their research and concluded that the curtain would fall on Olds and not Buick. I think all of the other divisions are readily identifiable - Cadillac is clearly the top of the heap, Buick is upper middle class luxury and quality, Pontiac is sporty, Chev is the "apple pie" baseline and Saturn is the brand with Japanese sensibilities and styling cues (more so than the others, anyway). If Olds was around, it would have been just like Buick (upper middle class luxury and quality). Now that is duplication. I think GM is getting better. I can forgive them for the demise of Oldsmobile....sad as it is to acknowledge.

Ok, so I'm in L.A. last week and, like I used to do when I was growing up there, I would go to LAX to see planes land and take-off. As some of you know, the runways are perpendicular to the ocean and the communities of Westchester and El Segundo are to the north and south of the airport property, respectively. The Westchester side has no viewpoints per se but, on the El Segundo side, there is a knoll with a viewing park and telescopes. So I take my rental car there. It never fails. I always get into a conversation with somebody up there about planes and an hour has gone by...easily. They, too, know all the models, how much thrust the engines have, which airline has which aircraft on order, and even the timetable when certain carriers arrive and depart from Europe, Australia and the Orient... and on and on and on. As I drove away on Friday pm after watching a couple of '47s climb to the sky, I realized "I'm somewhat of a nerd." So be it. I love my planes. So, what's your nerd factor? Why so?

Merci. That is too funny....the French lesson, I mean. Il y a un Grand Ville Brougham, aussi, avec les tessuts meilleurs en les "hardtops" avec deux et quattre portes.

spank

Ooh-la-la...that's right. Every once in a while, I come upon a GrandVille convertible from 1975 or 1976 in perfect condition (quad rectangular lamps and cubed-up grille) and it's a feast for the eyes. "On ne peut pas oublier la GrandVille ouvert au ciel, n'est-ce pas?"

masturbation (the only thing most right-handers do with their left )

Usonia, you don't post much, but sometimes, when you do, it tends toward being dour and that concerns me. I hope you are working at being "your own best friend." That's a good place to start. After that, you wouldn't believe how people gravitate toward you, more than you may want.I spent the first part of last week in LV and the second part in LA. A friend of mine from childhood now lives there and she has never married. She commented on how she likes being single (she's at least a 7 in looks, too) because she doesn't want to put up with all the crap/baggage that people bring...so the grass may look greener to you regarding those people you know who are paired up. I am a little too relaxed these days, having quit my job at the end of February and expecting to finish up a master's degree (another one ) in about 7 weeks, which is at night, but I overloaded to finish. So, I'm at Hoover Dam and start talking to this chick from South America at the viewpoint because I hear her speaking Spanish and she gives me 3 phone numbers to come visit her in Venezuela. Then, a couple days later, I'm at DHS (Desert Hot Springs, about 25 min. north of Palm Springs) en route to LA at the tacky mineral pools there, and another woman proceeds to give me her phone number, telling me that if I come to the desert, there's no need to spend money because she has a guest house. This kind of $h! NEVER happens to me...especially 3 days apart. My friend in LV tells me she's never seen me so relaxed. Maybe that has something to do with it. Do you come off as unhappy and uptight? Maybe you need to get to a more "WTF" kind of state. I haven't a clue as to where you live; therefore, I don't know what your area offers. I really enjoy spending time by myself. I travel by myself and, except for some awkward situations being in restaurants by myself, I'm totally cool with it. So, I travel, go to Barnes and Noble to read travel books (or car/aviation mags), take drives (such as to Lake Tahoe) to bask in its grandeur, hit the gym (not too regular), talk to friends in other states or take naps. I don't like having people in my life that are bad for me just because it "looks better" to be "paired up." You shouldn't either. Hope that helps!

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gin

"pooper-scooper"

Just flew back up from LaLaLand about an hour ago.Yeah, those damn La Brea tar pits and what's underneath them is a main reason that the Wilshire Blvd. subway can't be extended westward without big problems!

Most of the Pontiac names are "Frenchy" but the only 2 Cali ones I can think of are Catalina and Ventura. Are there others I've missed?

Our very own Flybry said it best: "f@#k you, I'm the Grand Prix." A keeper!