Intrepidation

Performance isn't just about horsepower. Performance is about the package. About how balanced a chassis is, the brakes, the steering, the suspension tuning, etc. Mazda shines here. GTO Better than the G8? not really...they're two different types of cars but both performance cars. Mazda built up their sporty reputation thought the whole lineup over the last decade or so. Pontiac could do it, but it's been watered down and has image working against it, as well as the lack of money....the former almost being worse than the latter. If Pontiac was a one or two car dedicated performance brand that would be fine....but the problem is that GM wants to kill both of the performances cars it has one way or another....and of the two only one really stands above the competition. Very bad situation.

I don't really care for it. I don't car for the 90's greenhouse and the low belt line, and how the rear character lien dips into nowhere. It kind of reminds me of teh LaCrosse's character line but doesn't connect wit the front one. The front is kind of busy but it's not too bad. The rear is ok, but I don't like the tail lights...they remind of of the Yaris'. Overall, especially from the rear 3/4 view, it gives me a last gen LS vibe...which is ironic since the Toyota name is shown in that photo. Interior looks very nice, as is becoming typical of Hyundais.

Satty, you should post photos of it.

They will never have the same sexy curves as the Viper, at least in my eyes. Of course the Viper's like 80k too

It does look better than the pop up lights...I will say that. But at the same time...I still kind of like the ones on that Firebird on CD. What are they from? They actually follow the hood line very well.

There's a fix for that, I think von posted it in my showcase thread about the Grand Marquis.

If it turns up just post it...no rush.

I was surprised when a few of you mistook the Viper for a Firebird...I mean no offense, but they're no where in the same league.

Cool, thanks for posting. On a side note...I wonder why Allpar's photos always look so $h!ty.

Take it from me, those things are tanks...they just keep going and going (just not in reverse in our case)

So YJ, were you fooled by the Viper too?

Too bright? I find that baffling when we've got headlights like these: Looking forward to a better photo if you have it.

80's Accord coupe.

Why didn't the feds approve them? I don't really care for them...they make the car look sleepy and a bit like an Olds...but I'm curious.

Mitsubishi is an everyman brand like Chevy, with a few performance cars Pontiac is supposed to be a performance brand but only has a few performance cars. Mazdas, even the minivans, are sporty, with the exception of the 2 Ford rebadges. Hell, if Pontiac had Mazda's product it would adhere much more closely to Pontiac's sporting mission.

90's Corollas/Prizms are pretty good to. Not bad looking either for what they are. Ours had a transmission issue (gear synchronize) but that seems to be pretty rare...even then we could still drive it...just 1, 2, 5, and R until we replaced it. Also replaced the master and slave cylinders shortly after the transmission was replaced. The door handles are cheapy and have a habit of braking easily, but if it happens they are easy to replace and cheap if you get the from the junkyard. Only thing to watch out for is the exhaust manifolds on the 1.6 models. They are notorious for cracking...but again...not major issue and the part is cheap used. I think $50 used but $260 new...so you can haggle if it's cracked. Besides that, it's been good to us for 189,000 miles and counting... AC and all the accessories work.

Getting an 80's Accord on the cheap also mean you don't feel bad if you ding it up.

Starting a car collection are we?

I love those thing! They're so quirky...that's the world's first sport utility wagon. There's also one of those down the street from me.

Nice....4 whole photos.

There's a red one down the street from me. I can see it from my house. Oh and there's another one the next town over. Always thought it was interesting because their neighbors have a first gen Intrepid. Yes they are rare compared to the other LH cars though.

On that note, Visions were the sportiest of all the first gen LH cars...they had unique suspension tuning. However reliability of the first gens is hit or miss.