Intrepidation

Good for the Maserati ...however this car is far more sexy...

LOL I just realized it has the hood of a Viper on it.

1970 `Cudas, especially those equipped with the Hemi, are regarded as the most iconic `Cudas ever.

"Well it's probably less likely to explode then our current model."

I have 2 sitting in my garage :3

I wasn't aware there was such a thing as "Hyundai Humpers" and a design cue to call there own

They look more like 3D renders but anyway, I'm looking forward to seeing them in person.

I'd liek to see a return of Turbo 4's to midsize sedans. Chrysler used to be very good at it...it'd be sweet to have the 285 hp Turbo from the Caliber...then the Avenger would make more power than it's top V6.A Malibu with the Cobalt SS's Turbo 4 would be sweet too.

IE for ftw inf you're a hacker or a virus.

Fly can hate it, and I'm sure he'll say so I like it a lot, Especially that silver car we've seen pictures of (production version?) It's amazing how quickly Hyundai is evolving its designs.

IE is a POS, like a J-Body or a first gen Neon...about as reliable and safe as one of those too. My only issues with FF@ were some conflicts some of the add-ons I had installed had that made the browser unstable, but once I got rid of those I've never had a problem with it. One thing that would be nice is if the went back to the old tabbing system where you can see all of the tabs no matter how many you have...I liked that better. Also FF2's menu buttons look like crap. What changes have been made to FF2 Oldsmoboi?

Bestiality?

This thread is almost as good as Ultimate Sadness.

Let's all bitch next time GM releases a sketch teaser as well...oh wait...we'll probably praise it... They look promising, although the Chrysler does remind me of a Cadillac from the front..still it doesn't look like the Sebring and that's a good start.

Oh dear gods I hope not...or someone will die.

I can screech the tires in the Prizm...its not an amazing feat that require 23,323 horsepower

Can you use FF2 still wile using FF3 beta?

Daimler didn't pump the money into Chrysler Group because it didn't want to. It didn't want Chrysler to be able to compete at the level of Mercedes, and it always shortchanged the new vehicles that were launched, with the exceptions of the Pacifica and LX cars. The German Ego is what screwed up Chrysler. Chrysler Group was always forced to play 2nd fiddle. And when Daimler saw that cheaping out didn't result in earth-shatter sales (holy $h! what a surprise!!11), they dumped it. Yes money would need to be investing in new platforms and product to make the company successful again, but what the hell does one think needs to be done in order to be competitive and profitable? You have to spend money to earn money. Create no-excuse, world class products that don't cheap out, make them on good, flexible architectures, and the profits will come. It worked for the Japanese, it's starting to work at GM, this is not a difficult concept to grasp. Also, if the new LY platform is designed to be flexible, it can be used to underpin a variety of new vehicles including a midsize RWD car for Chrysler (and even Dodge, so long as they are very different in design, performance, and so on), and create 1-2 highly flexible FWD platforms for the front drivers, including cars, CUVs, and minivans (sort of like the Caliber platform now, but better), and have 1-2 flexible BOF architectures for the rest.

That's a real possibility...we'll see what happens...

Any old pickup, Taurus/Sable or Escort, and Temps...also Tercels. I would avoid 1st gen Neons like the plague (I've heard some pretty bad horror stories), but the 2nd gens aren't bad little cars. I haven't heard to many issues with them. People I know who own them haven't had any real problems with them. I would never go anywhere near a J-body of any year. Surprisingly I still see a lot of 1st gen Neons on the road, even more shocking is that most don't look bad...although some I've sen with peeling paint, and a few with really bad surface rust on the roof. Lots of them with fogged headlights though.

It's up on edmunds now as well. Once again, this is an extremely stupid move. With all of the product cutting they are doing now, Chrysler as a company is in as good of a position as it will ever be to define/redefine its brands. With all but the 300, T&C, and Sebring left after the current cuts, Chrysler has little baggage to take with it should it move upmarket. It is positioned to introduce a range of new products that will take the brand back into the entry luxury/luxury segment where it belongs. The results of moving it upmarket with the right products would be obvious: A return to prestigious brand image, a real brand identity, an end to product overlap and badge engineering, and most importantly for Cerberus, bigger profits. Dodge can be properly aligned as the sporty mainstream brand, with no need to have its products to be watered down to give Chrysler a light edge, since Chrysler would compete further upmarket. Jeep should be the niche seller of BOF SUVs, the Wrangler and other products that belong with the brand. By doing this you have the ability to create 3 distinct brands, that compete in 3 different areas of the market, and none of them will be held back by the other. Why is that so difficult of a concept?

I'm pretty sure the CTS has the luxury part down right, as is evidenced by the equipment list and the high praise it has gotten for it's gorgeous interior.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16830120207 Also the camera you have may not be that great, but if it were in focus it would make a world of difference. I wish we got the Airflite.

:rotflmao: pathetic!

I want to see an old fashion shootout with all of the midsize players.