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$20,000,000,000 / 645,000 = $31,007 per vehicle. ? No WAY that's close to being accurate. That's less than the smallest/cheapest BE retail (leaf), and the fleet includes medium & HD trucks, ambulances, etc. I realize there's fleet pricing, but c'mon. I think $50 billion is at least closer to reality. Going to have to slot this under 'Gov't misinformation'. Of course the major issue with this EO is that no existing vehicles fit the mandated conditions to purchase or more commonly; do not exist, period. RIght about 4.75% of the global market. SURGING.

Country code : built in Mexico. 1, 4, 5 = U.S.

Oh crap. I just noticed that all the Sierra Elevations in my search radius have a VIN starting with '3'.

My dad never did that with me. A buddy had a ‘68 Sedan deVille when we were 15, and I drove that in his back fields... I have a list somewhere but I think that was the first car I drove.

1/1000th of 1%.

2019 Tesla Model X P100D Ludicrious Mode : 1/4 mile in 11.3 secs, plus 1 hour to fully charge & warm batteries. Total 1/4-mile time : 216,011.3 seconds.

How many hyper car owners take their car to a actual road course? Probably less that 1/10th of 1%. They spend their lives snoozing in garages.

No problemo, mi amigo; take all the time you wish. - - - - - Bored here, may make a run to the one local junkyard left tomorrow. I almost always strike out there, and their inventory sucks, but their prices are fantastic & I want to get out. On my 'shelves of raw materials' I found a square of 1/4-in thick closed cell foam. Took me a while but I remembered it came out of our '03 GP as a battery insulation wrap. I need to make some B-59 tail light gaskets- and I can't find stuff like this local / I don't want to spend $45 to buy a whole roll online. Maybe I can find some there.

Per the one article, maintenance prevents emissions from exiting the exhaust system before the terminus of said system, putting it to the extreme rear of the vehicle vs. possibly leaking inside. But the consensus seemed to be about idling, not so much driving. Multiple links stated the focus was particulate matter and how filters significantly reduced that. So; room for significant improvement within the current system, not that it was at it’s zenith. I was amazed to read one reference to a bus in service from 1975. Most of what I’ve read about the busing industry stated school districts have strict ‘term limits’ on active bus life. I never rode on anything close to a 45-yr old bus going to school. I don’t think I was even on a 15-yr old bus. Of course they are, but there the surrounding atmosphere isn’t already contaminated with numerous other ‘urban’ emission sources. IE; in cities it’s certainly not only buses causing emissions, and in rural areas the air quality inside IC buses is probably significantly better.

That’s not what the link stated. It said ‘the rest of urban inhabitants’; there’s was no data that says ‘immediately outside the bus only’. Emissions in general in urban areas is relatively bad vs. rural areas. To me that means that the same ‘polluted’ urban air is going to go right into a quarter million dollar BE bus interior. Of course money figures into 99.99% of things. Because everybody that does anything needs to be paid (outside of a handful of independently wealthy.) Otherwise, wouldn’t there be zero commentary on the cost of health? BAN COST RESTRAINTS! EVERYBODY GETS 50 MILLION DOLLAR HEALTH BANK ACCOUNTS!

This is why some people question the 'butterfly net' of "it's science", and where critical thinking becomes instrumental. Remember: science is never 'settled'.

A blinged-up Corvette and 4 crapboxes. Aim higher.

The only think I heard RE the cybertruck reveal was the laughter at the absurd failure of the 'baseball proof' side glass. It the Tesla truck looked like the Lordstown truck, the attention would've been 25% of what it was. It gained attention not for any "reinvention" of a pickup, but for looking like it was spray-painted cardboard art project. The bashing memes numbered in the hundreds. As for losing credibility- he reversed on the Model 3 being $35K... EVER SINCE unit 1 sold. The risk of the truck is it's so un-user friendly as a truck that he HAS to revise it.

I observed it differently. Saw quite a bit of Hummer coverage; yes- not as much as the cybertruck... but I think the Hummer significantly eclipses the cybertruck in actuality. We’ll see once the production & price of both happens- I think the Hummer is excellently positioned to pull off another ‘Escalade event’.

Well.... certainly ‘higher income’ (not necessarily ‘higher education’; there’s youtube flakes making millions off of nothingness).

I know Munroe and watched his first Model 3 teardown video, but he's not driving/directing BE sales in one direction or another. Rivian has been talked about for what- 2 years? Hummer has only been been unveiled for like 2 months, and the launch edition is $112K vs. the $75K of the Rivian.

I search a 250 mile radius from my zip. 2021 Sierra 1500 count: 2200 trucks. Put it crew cab / 6.5’ bed Elevation 3.0L Duramax and it drops to 8. I’ll flex on color other than black & white are out.

I see ‘it’s not a Tesla’ falling away rapidly as more BE’s come online. Tesla WILL lose market share. Hummer just seems to blow away the silly cybertruck and the Rivian, right off the bat. Looking forward to real world reviews.

'03-07 generation SIlverado regular cab / 6.5' bed, completely coated in black bedliner paint.

PA truck has $7700 off sticker ($5500 from national program, $2200 from dealer), provided you take delivery by 2/1. Problem is- the truck is still in transit.

This sounds like a wackadoodle conspiracy theory. The exhaust is not pumped into the interiors of the bus / children are not dropping dead from riding a school bus.

So... a week ago stop at the dealer and the guy tells me the order was logged on 12/24, but that GM factories are closed down from X-mas thru the end of Jan, and they have no confirmation. Strangely, the UAW national calendar for 2020/2021 shows them going back to work on 1/3. Anyway, my order won't get placed until more like Feb 1. ... which pushes delivery back to maybe last week of April / 1st wk of May. -SIGH- So I've gone back to the GMClocator. Found the right configuration, sans spray-in bedliner, in central PA about 99 miles from me. My dealer told me I'd pay somewhere between MSRP and dealer invoice ($55K - $53K, so let's say $52K)... and this PA truck is $48K. Thinking about cancelling the order, getting my deposit back and buying off-lot. Downsides??

No, c'mon; it's both statistically irrelevant and from a compromised source. Not admissible.

Logan OH ~