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^ Obviously. So... then... how have the Germans justified 'building carbon copies of Cadillacs'? OR! "lines converge". < -------------- I'm going with this one. But that means the [erroneous] narrative that 'Cadillac is chasing the Germans' must be thrown out the window. Forever.

In '80, a 6- or 7-series wasn't truly in the luxury class yet. But more to the point, why aren't the '80 BMWs in the same vein as they were then? Spartan, lacking details & amenities, pedestrian-grade interiors? Where are those cars today? Generic, forgettable, plebian, focused on chassis dynamics with moderate performance at best? They're gone.

I would not be surprised, to abate fears of discretionary flying, that planes get retro-fitted with 'social distancing' seating and air flight becomes a thing for the wealthy.

But: would a 1980 3-series rightly be classified as a luxury car? Or a 5-series? An ‘80 s-class isn’t even a propoer luxury car. converging plot lines.

I’m not seeing how what you said is different than what dfelt said. Let me put it this way; what has “German luxury done”??

IMO, you are incorrect in your assessment. Look at the situation like a plotted graph. The German twins were miles apart from where Cadillac / Lincoln / Imperial were, but as you plot the lines, they converge. BMW/MB gained amenities, luxury, power and detailing where they had very little or none, and Cadillac adopted more 'international' sizing & styling. Cadillac has ALWAYS adapted to markets & times- look at all the different variations of their logo over the years. It is NOT 'Cadillac building a copy of the Germans'; it is simply that the plotted lines have converged. That is; unless you are also of the opinion that BMW/MB are 'building copies of American luxury cars'... then I'm OK with your assessment. XT CUVs are quite obviously not rebadges- it's ridiculous to call them that. And they compete very well sales-wise in their segments, which are heavily populated. They're not for me, but obviously they're successful (not a 'fail').

It is the Alaska earthquake, but I believe it was '62, not '64 as mentioned above. I grab so many vintage pics... many from Lib of Congress' site, but not sure this is from that. I defer to fact checkers on the date. Interesting that there's a '58, '59 and '60 Chevy in the hole. 'Three of a kind'.

Cadillac didn't have a 'diesel scandal' circa '78-82. What they had was a non-turbo diesel with extremely low output.

Another example of 'things happened earlier than one would think' ; this is the underside of a '64 Olds Starfire. I'm familiar with Buicks & Pontiacs, none of which have a centrally-located gas tank like this (and all modern vehicles) do.

'They' said the Corvair had 'European design'. Not sure what 'they' were referencing; American design was miles ahead LOT of Corvair racing went on. Corsa was a great package :

The interior issue is a good portrait of the industry in general. Color choices inside & out are way down from decades ago, regardless of brand. Sad.

My opinion is EVs have to be least least 25% of the market to be called 'mainstream', and I don't see that until 2050. 5% is nothing.

I notice that suddenly they're "dogs". ?

Hey! Just like EVs!

This COVID-19 mess literally could not have come at a worse time for EVs.

Everything is off-schedule. With such ultra low take rates for EVs, they're likely to be delayed even more; vehicles and new batteries. They have always been propped up by IC profits.

Not mine; YOURS. Nevermnd. ?

Oh; its cool alright! ? ’35 Ford HD truck chassis w/ ‘26 Lincoln V8. Family lost track of it years ago, despite it being ‘a local legend’.

So you're saying : 'my appreciation is beautiful' ??

Is this 'beautiful condition' or 'beautiful styling'? Asking for a friend.

Wondering where you saw it- it popped up in a small FB page like 2 days ago, never saw it before so I started spreadin it around. You need to watch the HAMB ‘vintage pics of days gone by thread. Very busy, very cool images.