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And the toyoterization of mercedes continues, unabated. - - - - -

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• A van has 2 uses; transport 1 / a couple people, and transport stuff. It’s not cool/doesn't look good, doesn't impress anyone and doesn't drive/handle/accelerate well. • EQC is 90% a GLC, which starts at $43K. Daimler electrified it and jacked the price to a (projected) $70,000. As is typical of all BEVs. The electrified cargo/ occasional family hauler is going to be madlymore expensive that the rest of the minivan segment. If it was going to be cheap they would've put the hard plastic from the sprinter in there. • A eqc is far less capable of doing either of the 2 things a sprinter can do, so it should start well below the circa $38K the sprinter is. It won’t tho.

Again; with that car-level interior, and the fact that the similar r-class started at $52K, AND this is to be electric, I fully expect it to be $70K to start. If it were gas with the shitty sprinter interior, i could see $35K.

Because smk mentioned it. Plus; compare the interior of this to the plastic hell interior of the sprinter. I think smk’s offhand comment is correct.

A metris is IC; EVs are usually a $20K premium over IC TO START. Plus, I don't see daimler pricing it UNDER a 8-yr older r-class if they're going to pitch it at families.

'62 Pontiac X-400 ~

[Reacting to the comment 'you could haul kids around'] An EV MB minivan is going to start more like $80K (the 2012 R-350 was $52K). You could buy 2 Odysseys and get vehicles that don't look like they require commercial plates.

Olds' showroom, 1940 ~

An Odyessey starts at $30K; for mercedes' 2nd foray into minivans, this had better be price-competitive if it expects to gain a foothold in the family shuttle segment.

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I havent looked much into this move, but I seriously question making a new brand, that looks like the old brand.

Contraction has been hitting cars for the better part of a decade already (volume-wise). But if the Envision is tight for its segment, dont intro a completely different SUV and leave the Envision deficient; fix the Envision!

Curious on the polecat 1 allotment volume, since it starts at $155K. Also curious on the subsequent 2 & 3 MSRPs; maybe $125K and $100K?

FIFY ?

Whats your op on such a move in a supposed upcoming serious contraction in the industry (sales-wise)? Sales contraction, if major and prolonged, should logically mean a model contraction. Even if there’s no sales contraction, the industry is over-volumed with models. If it were me, without question Id vote to plow the billion into the next gen Buick SUVs rather than another thin slice variant of the existing. Theres no way markwt research is empirically demonstrating a unmet need for a tweener 8-in different than whats out.

Electric trucks are far too expensive, and after what that video showed on Tesla’s huge range degradation when towing, ‘electric trucks days’ as far as meaningful market presence are probably 50 years away.

Splitting the difference is 8" - that's less than half the diameter of the vehicle's rim, yet you're advocating for a whole new vehicle development program. It's 'Gap Madness'.

Gas tank gone, trunk floor gone, frame rails gone. Exhaust must've been aluminized…

I like the current Lincoln look, and within the lens of 2019/2020, they're nice. Are they knocking my socks off or standing head & shoulders above all else? Not in my opinion. I may have overstated in my earlier post, but not completely. I would like to see something new that takes my breath away stylistically. When I walked around a couple of C7 Corvettes, that was pretty close. I do think the current Ram (and the last few generations) have been extremely good designs. CT6. What else tho?