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It wouldn't fly on sedans, and prolly not so much for SUVs, but I think the truck segment really could use some bold colors... and they'd sell.

^ I don't think it's 'greed', I think Musk is well aware that the drying up of carbon credits is going to have Tesla back where it usually is; in the red. Plus, the stock is off by a third... he's looking at mounting cash flow problems. Another issue :

Musk has stated in the past he envisions EV's for everyone, but with monthly price jacks and the 2nd cheapest model starting at $49 grand, he's not following his own mantra. $50 grand eliminates a huge swath of car buyers. So while it may be good for Tesla's the Company's revenue stream, it's not good for Tesla the Mission Statement's claim for existing.

I understand your generalization & get your point, but I am duty-bound to correct any historical fact stated in error; not to correct YOU but to have the facts in cyber-print for the future. All modern GM brands were independent autonomous companies except Pontiac (created) and GMC (reorganized from the merger of 2 independents). Cadillac's roots as an engine builder, machine shop & foundry begin in 1890.

On a truck forum I read, AS/S is almost unilaterally loathed.

328,000 in '20. Extremely unlikely to hit 500K in '21, sales are growing very slowly. They won't. If the stars align, maybe 1 million.

2 Rangers :

I didn't realize Daimler finally pulled the plug on smart- about a decade too late. Good riddance. The KBB chart seems to make sense then, tho I question whether Daimler is 'reverse-sandbagging'... with the a-class in addition to the CLA, PLUS the 50% decline in s-class sales / the killing off of the s-class coupe... I'm not seeing how the ATP is up around 3-4 thousand over a couple years ago. Smells fishy. Of course it is.

And by 'go away'; allow me to clarify. Via my experiences I place sales persons ABOVE marketing; I've found them to be more honest that the ads/press releases.

CORRECT! It's 85% bullshit. Give me a full spec sheet and go away.

Some woman might disagree with you thinking this is for the Men and a Raptor is for the WoMan! I’m sure; just reflecting on the marketing presentation.

Apparently…. The First Ever Chick Truck. With a standard subcompact bed. ?

If daimler lumps profit together by corporation, how do you know they don't lump ATPs together by corporation? I'd like to see definitive info on this point if there is any.

Disconnected: starter wire, shift linkage, trans mount, some sort of heat shield, 1 motor mount bolt, speedo cable. Left: other motor mount bolt, oil pressure wire, coil wire (to harness). Fun laying under a cob-web-dripping, rust flaking car undoing fasteners last tightened in 1964. Talked to my friend who's motor is in the shop right now- he says maybe another week or 2. Them my bro's '65 GTO motor goes in, with a promised '2.5-3 month' turnaround. Then mine. Mine is going to be a dream- so many pieces cleaned, painted, threaded chased, etc. Going to completely disassemble the motor other than the valves/valve springs. Plus it's all original- no whackadoodle retro-fits to figure out.

Kingsbury High School yearbook, Memphis, 1961 :

On FB Marketplace for $2750 :

What was Mercedes' ATP??

Tesla stock up 271% from its 52-wk low but is DOWN 33% from it'd peak. TSLA is rated 'overvalued' with a minus 14% return. It has never issued a dividend. It's price per earning ratio is a staggering 600:1 (because it doesn't make any money selling vehicles). General Motors stock is up 207% from it's 52-wk low, but is currently at it's peak. GM is rated 'undervalued' with a plus 13% return. Dividends are currently suspended (since 3/20). It's price per earning ratio is a solid 10.2. General Motors is doing fine.

Tesla made 721 million in profit in 2020, almost entirely due to the sale of intangible carbon credits. General Motors made 6.4 billion in profit in 2020. General Motors is doing fine. General Motors is 9 times more profitable than Tesla in 2020... 29 times more profitable if you lose the carbon credits at Tesla.

2020 is a grotesque anomaly, and you know that. FYI : Model S Plaid + is officially dead. IDK about the 'Plaid -'

But always at a net loss. And; Corporate numbers can be interesting, but they are far less significant than what we talk about here; brand numbers. 'Daimler' includes about half a dozen semi-truck brands, which obviously elevates their numbers. Q2 2020 Cadillac ATP was $59,803.

That’s actually a 100% increase (1%+1%). SALES increased by 50%. You do get that as a percentage, Tesla’s marketshare increased partially BECAUSE other OEMs declined, right? As for ‘fastest growing’- that happened in 2019, when sales grew by nearly 300%. 50% sounds pretty tame in comparison…

^ Agreed RE a sub $40K Cadillac. When Mercedes brought out the $29K CLA, I almost couldn't believe it. (I could, actually, because Daimler will do anything to make a buck). But Mercedes = General Motors, 'A car for every purse & purpose' approach. In other words; not a luxury brand. Cadillac should stay exclusively upper tier. I argued against both the CT4 and XT4 as unnecessary.