balthazar

No more takers ?? According to research published in the SAH journal, the first fatal vehicle accident occurred on July 29th. {Tee-hee- I still left off the year!} There was an established line of steam coaches traveling regularly (for 4 months at this time) between Glasgow & Paisley. Apparently, for reasons unexplained, officials at the Glasgow end put a thick coating of loose stones on the road in order to cause an obstruction. This was done repeatedly, and by mention, assumedly was instrumental in causing one of the wheels to break. The carriage nearly overturned, and the weight of the entire vehicle came to rest on the boiler and caused it to burst, killing 5 passengers. And the year was . . . . 1834. I would have guessed 1870s just because of the point of the question, but '34 is amazingly far back.

Hm-mmm...... OK...... they shared... 1st names.

RE: cargo - is there not a sort of 'hidden' roof rack also? (As tough as it is getting used to a RPO Cadillac wagon, the idea of roping suitcases down to the roof of this one is beyond my capacity to visualize it).

I see Cadillac had no issues with centering the pair of exhaust tips.... unlike the decade or so BMW stuck their single pipe out the rear.... MADDENINGLY off-center by about 6-7 inches (I guess this was early '80s??) God that used to annoy the hell out of me.

'You have all overbid' -Bob Barker

Olds Guy does win! Apparently B&S took over production of the Smith FLyer ('17-20), produced it themselves from '20-23, then still later it was known as the 'Auto Red Bug' ('23-28). Wiki says it was $125-150 - seems appropriate when you learn that the wooden planks they're sitting on are both the 'car' floor AND the "suspension".

They did, sales-wise, but they had zero reason to, engineering-wise. That was the most pleasant surprise of the ad for me.

^ Nothing serious to my knowledge; that's not it. MORE: I don't believe this was misleading (certainly not intentionally) but what they shared was not 'similar', it was 'exact'.

Overall, a dynamic, exciting car, and so refreshing to see a new 2-dr coupe in 2010! Lower, wider, lighter = faster. Only thing that bothers me design-wise is the extended spoiler/ CHMSL; the way it protrudes so. The rest has a real nice balance between 'sleek' and aggressive. Reminds me a bit of the 1st gen GPs (clean smooth sides, detail & aggression in the front & rear fascias). Oh, and: >>"Classic hardtop styling, with no conventional B-pillar (visual impression with all windows in the fully-raisied position only) "<<

^ Quite the opposite, at least WRT 1 of them.

I checked one of the 3 and he did lose a parent young.... but that was not what I was alluding to as the 'very personal similarity'. Another of the 3 did NOT lose a parent when 'young'.

Today, the names are known via product ownership by many millions worldwide annually.

Written by another, slightly edited~ >>"There were 3 men who had more influence on the automobile business than anyone else. These 3 created & nutured automobile manfacturing businesses & concepts that live today, and their ideas continue to affect the way autos are built & marketed. They were all born in the 19th century, but their vision gave life to the legacy of the 20th. There were a number of similarities in these men's lives, but their differences lay in the way each approached the business of producing autos. The contributions to automotive perfection & advancement of these 3 cannot be overstated."<< There was one very personal similarity the 3 shared, and if you get get this, you are given a big shove toward identifying the 3.

Of course, at some point in time; the first fatal auto accident occurred. Of note perhaps, is that not 1 person died, but 5. Also, this occurred not as a result of a single, pioneering trip in an unproven claptrap, but 'just another' run in a regular journey. Guess the year (within a 10-yr range if you must).

Bird cage lining ? Fish scaling wrapper ? Something to 'fill out' the garbage can load so you can feel better about maximizing the garbage truck's efficiency (more bulk/weight per can per stop) ?? -- -- -- -- -- If CR came out with a full recommendation of an American car, they'd run the risk of offending the purchases of their predominently-import buyer subscribers, who dote on the getting that reaffirmation of their decision with every auto issue. Ahh, the quandry for CR.....

Absof*cklootly amazing !!! I can hardly believe this, esp from the POV of a guy who's lucky to work on something for which repro weatherstripping is available. I'd seen finished examples of the '55 before, but they look like any other restoration/rod - this is the first time I've seen the starting point. You could easily spend $7500 for rust repair on a 50-yr old car and still risk waves, misalignment... or you could buy a 100%, real steel repro ready for paint and do a 'catalog' build. It's all there! DAMMNIT- why didn't I develop a taste for Chevys ??? Camino- IMO, and coming from the same East Coast rust belt.... those prices are completely worth it for what you get.

{checks..} Do not believe so.... every locale mention I can find RE their lives is NOT from PA. Further info: the vehicle pictured was built by these 2 guys for about 3 years, and 1 source claims it was the cheapest US vehicle ever in price.

The 2 gentlemen pictured below are seen sitting on a 'flyer' (self-propelled) named after both of them. Tho their intention was serious for automobile production, such was quite brief, yet their names are well known today, and many of you have no doubt utilized product -in part- manufactured under those same names. Which is...?

"Yes, I will attend (weather permitting)"

I'm almost certain the '55 body is also being reproduced. Interesting to ponder the degree of interest to reproduce an entire vintage automobile BODY, eh? BTW- wheelbases ARE the same '55-57 Chevy : 115".

You guys are right, of course, but it pains me to even think of cutting up a rare Nomad / Safari. The Nom/Fari B-pillar I can't argue, tho note the regular wagons had (not as much) slanted tailgates, too. I could cut a regular wagon, tho that'd be tough, too. Any sheetmetal 'deficiencies' from the regulars vs. the 'sports' can easily be remedied with sheetmetal, a welder and a good eye.

caddycruiser ~ >>"they belonged to my great great grandparents? I couldn't tell you what's what, however."<< The top runabout is the every-ubitquitous Ford Model T. I'd bet dollars to donuts the touring car is the same- what I can see of it matches up. -- -- -- -- -- My father has owned: '06 (?) Lucerne 4-dr sedan '00 (?) LeSabre 4-dr sedan '89 LeSabre 4-dr sedan '80 Colt '77 Catalina Safari '72 Nova 4-dr sedan (used) '70 Catalina 4-dr sedan '63 Catalina 4-dr hardtop (used) '62 Biscayne 2-dr sedan I have a few poor pics of the '70, a few decent ones of the '77. I kno I've seen a pic of him with the '62, but I don't have it. His Average Model Year Owned is 1979. Mine is 1965. I came home from the hospital in the '63.

I would bet a number of them were done from the 'regular' 2-dr wagons. I know where a '55 Pontiac 2-dr wagon 'el Camino' is/was. I drooled after that car for many long years.

The 'guy who ran a bowling alley' was Durant. Sloan was much too shrewd a businessman to end up broke, but he (along with others) supported Durant for the rest of his life, from their own pockets, in recognition of all he had unceremoniously accomplished. You'd never see something like that done in the last 40 years. -- -- -- -- -- When Durant re-capitalized Buick Motors, Buick got shuffled aside. His work in the engineering department was "unappreciated", and he ended up with an insignificant job in sales. Buick left Buick in 1908. He subsequently lost a great deal of his personal wealth speculating in CA land deals. Buick spent his last 2 years teaching mechanical engineering & drawing in Detroit, not broke, but likewise no longer in possession of the riches he had had, more than once, previous in his lifetime. He died in 1929. -- -- -- -- -- >>"The "in part" qualifier made me think of Louis Chevrolet."<< And that's the answer :: Louis Chevrolet came back to Chevrolet as a "lowly" line mechanic in the '30s, and died relatively broke in 1941. Well remembered, Camino! -- -- -- -- -- The above is yet another example of what I rail against- the vast unrecorded history of GM's past (& inner workings). Why isn't it known exactly when Chevrolet returned to work for GM ? This should be readily-retrievable information- not a 10-yr range of a guess.

I have an illustration of a Celebrity-based El Camino. Same roofline as the ST- but the straight-edged lines look pretty decent...