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  1. I would have liked a firebird, but I can always change the badging on the Camaro based GTO!
  2. GOD! THAT SCARED THE HELL OUT OF ME! THAT NAME AZTEK IS DEAD,LIKE EDSEL, OR (soon to be)SCION!
  3. Funny Fact:In Asia, US and European automakers are more popular than Toyota! So GM is beating toyota in one way, but losing in another! P.S. The japanese are great! I mean, I LIKED my Tercel, it was $10,000, now they are practically luxury cars! The only ones you can get for that price are those hideous SCIONS!
  4. Not to get political, but what would you expect from a president who created the anti american Patriot(Aka.Dictatorship)act! WHAT A SLEAZE!
  5. Toyota, it doesnt make me think of quality anymore, it makes me think of an arrogant automaker. Heres a new GM ad: Toyota Announcer: ...we have ten plants in the US, and 10,000 jobs... Rob Lutz:Wait... I work for GM, and we have 54 plants in the US. Toyota Announcer: Well toyota builds better vehicles! Rob Lutz:Then why does toyotas new Camry have panel gaps and poor quality materials, and all of those recalls? Toyota Announcer:Well...umm... Rob Lutz:Its clear if you want to be patriotic,safe, and smart, you WILL BUY A DOMESTIC! LIKE CHEVY! AN AMERICAN REVOLUTION! Amother one: Guy:Well, I just bought a Toyota Tundra. It has the best fuel economy in its class, and is the cheapest to maintain... Talking Sierra:Hey! Im the new 07 Sierra! Guy:Youre not as good! Talking Silverado:Yes he is! No one insults my brother! Talking Avalanche:Yeah! Your design is nearly a decade old! 1998! Why not just go to the used dealer and buy a 98 Tundra? Its less costly! Or if you want the newest Multi Utility Pickup on the market, get me! Guy:Youre Right! All of them drive away Talking Tundra:Hello? Anyone! HEY! CHEVY! AN AMERICAN REVOLUTION!
  6. GMC

    Intrigue 4-4-2?

    !!!!!!!!! They should have never created Saturn(as much as I like them), and used that money to fix Oldsmobile! They would be around, and be the envy of the world if they still had that edge... innovation!
  7. Hybrid Diesel,Gas,Kerosene,Electric,Hydrogen,Water,Etc. Just kidding... what ever is approved by the regulators, and me, the driver, of course! But ill stick to my classics, thank you!
  8. GMC

    FORGET A PHASE OUT!

    I WONT DO ANYMORE! GOD!
  9. As you may think from My recent article, I dislike pontiac. I think the opposite! PONTIAC RULES! I have been upset since 2002s end of firebird production, but if the Firebird becomes the performance god it used to be, I will indeed buy one! It will go niceley with my soon to be purchased bonneville(Its my first restoration)! This will be SO AWSOME!!!!! I couldnt wait! Heres my Idea of a firebird trans am! Any opinions on a new firebird? I am going to write an article on why Pontiac needs THIS car for its halo vehicle! Heres the *concept*
  10. Oops! You Were right again! I am normally a whiz, but I tried to hurry, without checking if I was correct, Buick used straight Eights, but Fireball V6 or Fireball 6 has a nice ring to it.
  11. Dear forum members, I was in a hurry to write this article and should have consulted you before this article came out, and I also would like to say, you make a good set of points, and Balthazar is right, in a few places I didnt make sense! So next time I should do the article and revise it before I submit it. I think that the vibe is a bad idea, after all, Isnt GM supposed to COMPETE with toyota? The H4 in my old article would be a disaster, and also, to create an american porshe, the Solstice must have its hood retooled to make room for a Supercharged V6, similar to the Regal GS, and the O4X must get the same treatment(a supergharged V6). As a matter of fact, name the Supercharged V6 the Fireball 6, named after the old straight six engines classic buicks used. Yours Apologising, GMC
  12. Weve seen all the new GMCs,lets give our ideas for GMC vehicles: GMC Buffalo(the animal, not the city): A Sierra, but it is riding on the shortened Tahoe Platform.(also an Idea for the Chevy Cheyanne) Thats my only idea , so whats yours?
  13. Let the rich own Escalades(Actually pronounced ESS cal AD ay, which is spanish for climb or scale), Let the Posers(Laughs) and Foremans of the job own Denalis, and let the workers own big ol Chebbies and GMCs! Let Saturn have a minivan, this will make GMC look wimpy to most. I know vans are cool, but most non gearheads think otherwise. Well heres what one might look like, meet the 07 Sorrano, a replacement for the Terraza!
  14. I am in an armoured Humvee, with heat seeking missiles(for the flames ), and a gattling gun.
  15. Phase Out Pontiac to save Buick and GM: Can Pontiac adjust? Or more importantly, can the public adjust to the new image of Pontiac? Pontiac has called itself the brand that drives excitement, but truthfully, it lacks any such excitement. I mean:the Grand Prix as a performance car? Come On! It is a masked vehicle most youths would never want, the stodgy, yet elegant in my opinion, Buick LaCrosse. These days the brand uses hyperbole to sell,and not in a limited amount, I mean calling a V6 a powerful engine is normal, but saying sleek styling, performance bred engines, is over the top! The main reason Pontiacs arent selling is the fact that they are no longer performance cars, the current Pontiac lineup has nothing unique about it. Couldnt you buy a Chevrolet version of the Grand Prix or Grand Am? Even the popular Solstice has a rebadge, the Saturn Sky, and some say it will be the car that saves the division, but they said that about the Olds. Aurora, Olds is in the retirement home. Also, you cant say that Pontiac is upscale, they still have a few shreads of performance left in them, including the bare, bland interiors of the muscle cars, and the front ends that have defined Pontiac since the days of the 59 Bonneville. But whats the point? The GTO looks like a normal Pontiac sedan from afar, but upon inspection, it is a differnent vehicle! The styling is what makes it look like a run of the mill Pontiac, if it had been styled in a retro fashion, ala.the Ford Thunderbird, it would have appealed to buyers, but GM couldnt give some life to the famed muscle car! The G6 looks very much like a Cobalt with a changed front fascia and rear, which did justice for the Firebird, but the Firebird had a differnent engine! Cant these engineers and bean counters learn that rebadges 80s style never work? Platform sharings goes back to the 30s, when Ford and GM discovered the economics of using one platform, with modifications for cars. The Pontiac Cheiftain and Chevrolet Bel Air were similar in body and platform, but had differnent engines and other details that would make one compelled to buy a Pontiac over another GM marque! If GM could relive those days in certain practices, GM could actually rival the weakening Toyota and the stronger Korean automakers. Some say killing Pontiac would close assembly plants and dealers, why not have these branches become dealers for other brands, and produce other cars, as in more than just Cobalts and G6s? I say, kill Pontiac. Pontiac was created to be below the now defunct Oakland brand, but above Chevy. When Pontiac began outselling Oakland, Oakland was phased out and Pontiac replaced Oakland. But nowadays, whats the differnence between a Chevrolet and A Pontiac? The front fascia, and the rear spoiler! Is it worth keeping a division that only has that going for it? Also, Pontiacs semi, well, lets face it, little or no sucess is coming at the expense in marketing dollars and repairs of a more deserving brand:Buick. It needs an image change because its customer base of elders is eroding, or should we say, following the brand because of the mindset, its old, its damaged, just lets let it die. Buick, along with the strong Cadillac division, is on the other hand the car for growing China! The two brands are the most popular in China and Asia, and you dont see Pontiac breaking the sales charts in China, one of the biggest auto markets in the world. So whats the point of having a brand thats sucessful on none of GMs major sales regions? All Buick Needs is a rehab in North America, and it will join the likes of Chevrolet and Cadillac in GMs favorites list. If Pontiac goes, some argue, GM will have lost an important part of itself. But honestly,in an abstract way, its been phased out. Yes, I said it has been phased out, why? One, it no longer is associated with performance in this generation, nor is Buick associated with luxury in the U.S. and Canada. Two, it is no longer unique, or somehow radically differnent. But the real depressing thing is that after the last true performance car, the Firebird, left what remained was a shell of Pontiac, a dying brand, almost saying OH! Just kill me! Which new Pontiac has associations exclusively with the brand. The Aztek? Nope, its a bad association. The Grand Prix? Nope, just a Pontiac badged Monte Carlo. So, to put it simply:None. What to do with the platforms Pontiac uses? Turn the G6 into the Buick O4X, an edgy Buick with Acura performance and luxury. The Solstice could become the Buick Bengal, it would make the perfect American Porsche when made into a luxurious ragtop and coupe! The Torrent could have its frame used for the Hummer H4, and the vibe could become a Chevy. Also, if Buick is the sucessor to Pontiac, turn the Firebird or GTO, into a Camaro based Buick Regal GNX. If it isnt Pontiac who gets the Axe,who will? GMC cant because it is sucessful as the Buick of trucks, above Chevrolet, but below Cadillac. Hummer? Not yet, but honestly, it only makes up 1% of GMs revenue. Same with Saab, so maybye it should be 2 brands who take the walk to the retirement home. Of Course, Saab could be sold to Chrysler, or even BMW, maybye reborn as an independent company. But like other GM joint ventures, it could use GM platforms under license, while GM uses the Eco Tech engines, or it could buy the Eco Tech engine from Saab after the sale. Bottom Line:Pontiac has to go. Good bye old friend.
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