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    Mercedes in the 70s and 80s cost more than Lincoln or Cadillac did. Granted they also mostly had SL, S-class and E-class so they started with their top cars and worked down. But high prices didn’t stop them from taking the market because they had the best engineered products. I don’t know if G80 and even GV80 are up to the task of taking on E-class, 5-series, GLE and X5. All 4 of those offer a 600 hp option Genesis might stop at 375, and if the chassis was built to only 375 hp, it probably isn’t as good as the one built to handle 600 and get around the Nurburgring. Genesis really needs a GV70 more than anything. Genesis is practically sales proof, they sold under 4,000 cars in Q1. 2 of them have an inline 6 that will win on smoothness all day. Mercedes and Audi will soon have mild hybrid on ever car. I doubt Genesis does any hybrids, plug-in or electric for years. There are going to be Audi drivers racing these Genesis’s saying “E-tron just kicked in, yo!”
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    And yet the G80 currently starts $12k lower than a 5-series or Eclass and is still outsold 3 to 1 by them, maybe more than that. The new G80 is nicer but Genesis has no brand image at all. They undercut the S-class by $40,000 with the G90 and still can’t sell them.
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    The Germans engineer cars for performance, ride, handling, etc. I’m not convinced that a G80 can match a 5-series on that front or an E-class on interior materials. The German cars aren’t over priced they are priced correctly for the market since they sell the best. An overpriced car would not have demand. I think the G80 looks sharp and I like the interior. It stomps an Acura or Lexus GS that is as old as dirt at this point. On the surface the G80 looks like a strong competitor but how well will it drive? And what will the price be? This car is dead in the water if it is 5-series money, needs at least a $10k discount.
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    They'll sell a few, but they will probably price it at 95% the cost of a BMW or Mercedes, and people aren't going to pick a Genesis over the German options. We see that with the G70, I think the challenge gets even harder the farther you go up the ladder.
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    But the CT6 is gone and I wonder if this G80 is more CT5 size. The G90 would be the CT6 competitor. GV80 however sizes up well with the XT6.
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    I read recently that the CT5 and XT6 were going to be on Omega, but were switched to Alpha 2 and the Acadia platform to cut cost to pay for EV development. And they built it, Cadillac did not.
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    Haven't sat in one in a while, but I seem to remember it was tight. I think Mercedes is going to kill the CLS after this generation.
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    At 6’2” I could sit in the back seat of my Aurora and had enough head room, I can sit in the back of my E-class and have head room. I doubt I could sit in a G80 without my head hitting the roof
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    The Aurora was never coupe like, and I had a 2nd Gen Aurora. I thought the Aurora had pretty unique styling with no grille. Also if people leave sedans for SUV’s because they want higher rooflines and more space, I don’t see how chopping headroom in the back seat helps them sell sedans.
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    I think it looks good from the front, and I liked it 9 years ago when Mercedes made it. I can't imagine how Genesis came up with those 5 spoke wheels, pickle fork headlights and coupe-like body. The rear end of the Genesis breaks down a bit, looks like they tied to make it look like an A7 but an A7 looks better. I think the interior looks nice, it is a bit different than the others, would have to sit in it to compare it to others in the segment. The engines are good for base and mid-level and nice to see some new engines at Genesis. But what about a level about this? My guess is they stop with the 375 hp engine, and the big boys have 600. I still can't take Genesis seriously, I don't think the G70 is better than anything in that segment from Germany and the G70 isn't really cheaper, so what is the point?
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    Nice that Magnetic ride is a stand alone option.
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    Had to make this move. Even if things got better and they say it is okay to go out, who wants to be in a huge crowd of people? And more like the importantly they are going to need TCF Center to be set up as a hospital. Hopefully they don’t need it, but they are going to have to plan for the hospitals to be over run. Hopefully we get a slew of online presentations of new products. Since New York auto show was cancelled too, these auto makers should have some new stuff to show this spring that they can just do online and not wait til June.
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    All new cars are really expensive. You could pick up a 3 year old Lexus for the price of the Corolla. But people don't always shop price, they shop monthly payment, so that is where the finance people get creative.
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    Charge at home, spend zero time ever at a gas station.
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    The money to be made is by the fast food and fast station hybrid business that exist now like Sheetz or Wa-Wa. If you have a coffee bar, soda fountain , fast food restaurant, convenient store type set up that draws traffic anyway, where as before maybe half the customers get gas and leave, now they have to let their EV charge. So Sheetz can charge whatever per KWH or electric the person puts in their car and has them there for 20-30 minutes with nothing to do except spend money on coffee, lunch, etc. Although I think 80% of EV charting will happen at home, if not more. The vast majority of cars sit for 12 hours consecutive every day, plenty of time to charge at home.
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    I don’t see why an auto maker needs their own charging network when they don’t have their own gas stations. You’d think there would be monopoly or anti trust law issues is a car maker owned gas stations. Current gas stations will put in EV chargers or restaurants and malls will, etc. And I imagine a lot of gas stations as we know them today will be gone in 10-15 years.
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    Daimler had $26.775 billion cash to end 2019, GM had 23.243, thus Daimler has more as per Yahoo Finance.
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    Daimler has more cash than GM does. But all automakers are going to take huge hits this year, I suspect sales will go down 20% for the market this year. Daimler also can't push EV's out, they need them to avoid CO2 fines. And the EQ S and EQ E are already pretty deep into testing, they are going to be ready for production in 2021.
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    The AMG GT R Pro which is a front engine, rear drive coupe, same as a C7, is faster than the 755 hp ZR1. And I know it is faster because it had the record for front engine rear drive car. The 911 GT2 RS has like a 6:47 Nurburgring time which is also the old generation since the new 911 is out. Let’s see the C8 in the 6’s. All GM plants are closed now. So one wonders what delays will happen with development cycle of future product. And what production delays will occur, Corvette is done for 2020 orders.
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    Z06 won’t beat a 912 GT2, but they should set the ZR1’s goal to be Huracan or Aventador fast because those are old cars. Even if it means the ZR1 is $300,000. If Corvette wants to play with the big boys, that is where they are. AMG has a GT73 sedan coming, so they will beat their own 4-door lap record, they have a next gen SL73 that is a sports car not a retiree mobile that the current SL is (although I like the current SL, give me luxury over performance) and the next gen AMG GT coupes are all wheel drive so they’ll be faster than the current one. If the Corvette wants to play up there then bring it on, but if not then I don’t want to hear GM engineers saying it has super car performance when it doesn’t, at least not yet.
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    Not sure about luxury, but performance for price is outstanding because the C8 on the Nurburgring is very close to the Porsche Cayman GT4, faster than the GTS and faster than a base AMG Coupe, close to a BMW M4 GTS but way cheaper. Likewise compared to a Nissan GT-R which is slightly quicker but got stupid expensive. Most of the cars with C8 performance are around $100-120k and not $70-80k as most Corvettes would be. It is a win for the Corvette in that regard.
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    OldsHurst, you claimed the Corvette was world beating performance and has world beating engineering. Put the C8 against a Huracan or 911 GT2 that can do the Nurburgring ring in 6:50 or less and it is a 40-45 second gap. The CT6 Blackwing should have had lap times similar to the C8. That should have been a Cadillac’s target if the car were still around. I think the Corvette has great bang for the buck, for $70k it is a hell of a lot of performance and the Corvette has always had great performance per dollar. But world beater it is not, nor should it be because it is a Chevy. GM should have come up with a super car above Corvette years ago, or at least should start now if they want to pump some life into the Cadillac brand. Otherwise Cadillac should abandon all performance and be the opposite of sporty like a discount Rolls Royce and build isolation chambers that float over the road and have self driving. And that might be a good play for the future.
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    The G-wagen is hand built too. Not sure if that matters at all for sales. Sure we can wait til it gets out. The C8 is slower than a Mercedes sedan around the Nurburgring. 1. The GM engineers didn't bring enough, I want Celestique to be faster around a track than a C8. 2. They might... 3. It's better than anything they did in the past, but it is probably like Audi Q7 level.
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    It is a concept car, but it isn't even all that nice. Then you have issues of powertrain, which they could put 1000 electric horsepower and a big battery and solve that, but you still have to have a road pre-scan suspension that they don't have, you need level 3 autonomy which they don't have now. That is a lot to come up with in a fews years for a low volume product.
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