Camino LS6

Another valid idea. Somehow, I expected more abuse in this thread.

Well Reg, different strokes for different folks. I would hate to have to live with any of the vehicles you would choose - in fact I'd never buy one. You are right that I also hate crossovers and "cute utes" as a class, as well as minivans. I'd never own one. If I need that sort of utility, it would be a wagon or a Suburban for me. If I had kids, they'd learn to climb into the backseat of my coupes. I did it, so can they.

Take note of Pontiac's numbers as well. Rank them. Look closely at Cadillac and Buick. And think it over carefully.

You might regret that if Satty sees this thread.

I think we are starting to get this under control again. But please, keep the feedback coming!

I sort of get a gut negative reaction to sites like Facebook, I just am not comfortable with the concept. I realize that's a separate issue, of course, but I'm not sure that this idea would be good for C&G. I will keep an open mind about it though, while those more familiar and comfortable with the idea make their case.

That could be appropriate since I'll be fooling with the old stuff for a while.

I'm not keeping this one forever. Once I feel the time is right, I'll have to have the replacement ready. My first thought was a huge question mark. So give me some ideas, and don't be too nasty (yeah, right). Have fun: at my expense, at GM's , or be serious if you like. You never know what might end up as the perfect idea.

I would tweak the look (a little). I suspect, however, that the pricetag would ruin it for me and most of the rest of humanity.

Looks pretty hot to me. I'll take the fixed-roof lightweight version, please Even if it "just" has a standard ICE drivetrain. :AH-HA_wink:

Whoa!

The Avalanche and it's midgate are brilliant. But the Ram's execution of the side storage is much better. Anyone else remember the composite bed GM promised us so long ago where the entire bedside flipped up to expose storage compartments? It was supposed to become production circa 2000 IIRC.

Hedging your bets?

Tough question. My plan had been to get a G8 ST in model year 2011 (I was hoping for a GXP version with the manual). So now, I may delay a bit longer to the 2012 MY. I'd say that low 40k's would be the upper limit, and I'd be trying to keep it much lower if I could get what I really want. Think Firebird Formula as opposed to T/A - all the grunt but without the fluff.

Here's a wildcard: There is about a 50/50 chance that my Silverado will be going away.

Once we think we have all of the nominees, maybe this should become a poll. Could be fun.

I'd bet it would work in Russia.

But it could be a good deal too: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP...A:IT&ih=003

The proper way to look at that is that the coupe adds to the sedan's numbers.

The point is that absolutes and "all the eggs in one basket" are bad ideas. Flexibility with variety and innovation is the way to go. If you don't test the edges of the market, you'll always be late to the party.

If I don't calm down before I run into any GM reps, I just might end-up in the back of one.

Oh boy! I just can't take any more of this back and forth.

The thing is, in their myopic concentration on sedans, other variants are afterthoughts at best. That is a mistake.

I don't buy that argument. The sedan has been pushed by all of the manufacturers in an effort to limit costs. The result being that coupes have been only grudgingly produced without the sort of marketing and support any entry into the market would require. Much like FWD, the sedan has been inculcated into public perception in a fusion of cost-savings and marketing. In short, the manufacturers have taken the easy way out. But they have also narrowed the scope of the market to their detriment by creating undue competition for a single segment. This mistaken approach was also what drove the now dead wholesale exapansion of the SUV market. A balanced portfolio of product would be a superior and sustainable strategy. Flexibility of that portfolio in production volumes for its components makes far more sense than chasing the center of the market to the exclusion of its other components.

I can assure you of this much - my final choice will not be based on how much I can stick it to GM, but upon my requirements for any new vehicle purchase. In other words, it won't be GM but it will be all Camino.