Drew Dowdell

had the potential to maybe be cool... but too much of a chop job. jeers

Yes that is one of the things I am working on building is ROI for the various cars with the various Fueling Stations and estimated electrical cost. This way people can compare. With the US having such large reserves, if we could only get people to move over to CNG we could truly stop the outflow of money for oil to terrorist counteries. I'm not sure our Canadian members would appreciate you calling them terrorists....

No... don't you remember the Acura RLX concept that was supposed to be a hybrid with 370hp? I'm suggesting that Acura might be headed the wrong direction with this hybrid idea.

Yeah, I don't doubt it would be cheap. Even just charging a Volt every day for a full charge won't increase your electric bill more than $50 a month. I was just curious... it does need to be factored into the costs.

What is the typical electricity usage for a home CNG generator?

Quick, someone forward this article to the Acura project manager for the RL.

The Department of Homeland Security. They are planning on disabling large swaths of the cellular network AND people's private WIFI in Chicago when the NATO conference comes to town next week.

I don't think we were really talking about over the road trucking at all.... but more like the possibility of a CNG passenger vehicle like a Civic or Camry.

Passat sales are up 80% because last year you could pick through a few middle optioned wagons on the lot, there were virtually no sedans to be had at all. Current Jetta sales up over the sales of the Jettarolla? I'm shocked... SHOCKED.

Because it is a minor chance of possible injustice in face of the actual occurring injustice we have on going today. Can I get some examples please of what you consider occuring injustices? The forced tracking via a black box is a MAJORE INJUSTICE to our way of life, freedom of choice, etc. The TSA.... all of it... as ineffectual as it is intrusive. The fact that there have been zero bankers sent to jail for their grand theft while millions sit in jail for possession of small amounts of pot acquired through mutually agreeable transactions. Gitmo. The black box that is called your cell phone.... it reveals far more about you and your movements than any car black box could.... in fact, just having your cell phone on in the car is twice the black box that GM could ever equip your car with.

Why so much longer service lives on CNG in an otherwise identical engine? BTW, I may turn this whole thread into an article from the information you all have provided.

Well what is the mpg penalty? I ask because it looks like the assumptions above use the gasoline mpgs...

Because it is a minor chance of possible injustice in face of the actual occurring injustice we have on going today.

Do you get the same mpg on CNG as you would on gasoline?

SUVs are heavier than cars and do more damage to the road than lighter cars.... yay for vicious circle!

I'm taking mine on two 500 mile round trips.

So no more moving down market for Porsche?

That's the nascar version....

look at the front overhang on that thing.... it's enough to make a late model Chrysler K-Car blush! and also... look at how high the doors are off the ground.

You think?

So... just no imagination at all on the name then? Not even Commodore?

It's a bit late to draw the line. Modern cars already have black boxes.

It doesn't seem to do much for our roads here....

Yes, he did a review of the 2012 Chevy Cruze LTZ in March.

Gosh, it's an inline 6 but the A/C compressor looks like it is a V2.