Drew Dowdell

XTS I would think it late May early June, ATS is Augustish....

so... if I'm reading this article correctly... Lincoln is bragging that people have finally forgotten Continental and Mark VIII 8 years after they were killed.

Too small and not Zeta.

Why not? I like driving something that you don't see everyday...just sayin'. Cort | 38.m.IL | pigValve + paceMaker + cowValve | 5 MCs + 1 Caprice Classic CHD.MCs.CC + RoadTrips.hobbies.RadioShows.us66 = http://www.chevyasylum.com/cort * rNw-CC+event: http://rdwhl-caprice...rd=whatsgoingon * "Loose your blues" __ Kenny Loggins __ 'Footloose' Because they are (to me) some of the best looking cars on the road when they are taken care of. Saw a gazillion old Tercels and Echos on the highway here in Toronto today.... who wants to look at that?

Unfortunately, the styling is ruined by the weak transverse engine FWD platform that seems to result in short noses and short wheel to firewall distances. They could put an extra 6 inches between the wheels and firewall, but nooo....the XTS would look a lot better w/ a 117-120 inch wheelbase (more length ahead of the firewall) than a tiny 111 inch wheelbase. I could tolerate FWD vehicles more if it wasn't for the stubby noses. The MKS, LaCrosse, Impala, and countless other FWD models suffer from this design flaw. I, and 98% of the people who see the XTS within earshot of me, like the car style wise. There isn't anyone out there on the show floor with a measuring tape checking the wheel to door distance. It either looks good or it doesn't... that you don't like it is fine, but don't try to remove the choice for everyone else. It isn't a bland design. I personally find the MKS, RL, and S80 to all be bland designs... right along with the Genesis, GS, and M. Guess what... they all sell like crap no matter the distance between the wheel and the door. To put it yet another way... if RWD proportions were such a deciding factor for most buyers out there, the Chrysler 300C would be vastly outselling the Lexus ES. That won't be happening anytime soon. People buy the ES in droves... so clearly you're view on automotive styling doesn't apply to them.

Cadillac had multiple flagships in the 80s. The 80-85 Seville, the Allante, the 92+ Seville.... the Fleetwood Brougham. You may not have liked them, but they were still flagships.

First point is true, the XTS is another bridge, but GM has had that mentality for 30 years. Why didn't Cadillac start working on a flagship in the 80s when Lexus did with the LS400? Or why not in the early 2000s when they decided to launch Sigma? Cadillac needs to bring their future to the present ASAP. What segment wants a huge FWD luxury car? The 1,000 people that bought an MKS last month, most of which are all wheel drive, those few dozen non-fleet DTS buyers last year. There are only 3 front wheel drive cars with a base price over $40,000: the A6 2.0T, MKS and XTS. The MKS is still a suck of a car. The interior feels like a tarted up Taurus in each and every way. You can't compare the XTS to the MKS directly because the XTS has a substantially nicer interior. You're so hung up on the drive wheels + price that you forget there is a WHOLE lot more to a car than just that. All of the FWD high end Lux cars are out classed by the RWD cars right now.... but not for any reason that has to do with which wheels drive the car. It's all about the interior and looks. If RWD is the key to big sales, why are the GS, Infiniti M, Genesis all sucking eggs right now?

one more week of this....

Welcome Bill

On the front page/article system, all of the articles have the pictures embedded.

Yes, but they moved the weight closer to the center line of the car.

Because in the end...its still a Hyundai. It is suffering the same fate as the VW Phaeton. The genesis is ok inside, but the VW was even nicer and could be had with a W12.

well... they improved the weight distribution a bit....

All GM needs to do is look at the take rate for AWD on the Lacrosse. On the Impala, it would probably be even lower.

I could dig it.

You've driven the XTS already then? Can you share your XTS driving experience with the rest of the class? I'm interested in how the air suspension plus magnaride setup performs. Please use the "Reader Reviews" forum to post your findings.

Do. Want.

There are LED in the new SRX tailight... and light pipe too.

on the new server with healthy and fast new drives!

If I had the cash.... http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Oldsmobile-Toronado-Trofeo-One-owner-29kmi-Trofeo-Original-Paint-Super-Clean-/170820647308?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item27c5b4398c#ht_500wt_1182 $30k in 1990... that was NOT your father's Oldsmobile.

You seem to think 60 year olds are looking for the same driving characteristics you are SMK. People buy the E-Class and 5-series for the badge and nothing more. A6, XF, and GS sales are in the tank. Genesis hasn't really taken off at all as most of the sales are of the coupe not the lux sedan. How many Genesis R-Specs do you really think Hyundai will sell? The Lacrosse doesn't handle like a waterbed... you are so insanely off base here I wonder if you are returning to your trolling roots.

A Chevy Equinox Pennsylvania State Trooper.... ... was there a press release I missed?

I don't like that I'm the only E-body on the road in any given location.

damn, now you went and made a liar out of me. ok, so maybe not specifically Alero, but that era. It jumped out at me because the gray plastic doesn't match the gray plastic of the other switch gear. You can't see it in the above photo, but it's just enough off to be noticeable in person.

ok, enough with the back and forth at each other, back and forth over the car.... I am not saying it will not be a fantastic car, but where you love the style of Ferrari, I do not like it at all. I think Lambo is a far better style. VIPERS instill fear in others, This version of the VIPER should use all the technology to build a world class driving car, but keep the style to one that instills fear in others by saying I am not gonna mess with him. This current style is nice, but it does not instill fear. It does not say "Don't Mess with Me!" I get this I can beat most cars and I have no problem racing, but you might win. IMO That's because you can't hear it.