Drew Dowdell

both of you stop.

All the long term CTS tests I've seen report ~$100 first oil services. Anyhow trying to save a couple of bucks on something you do once a year is beside the point when a CTS retains 42% of its value after 3 years compared to the 65% you get back from a 328i (10k mi/yr, 2011 models). Depreciation is the biggest expense of any new car, and in the CTS you spend an extra $10,000 for that. .... I had a CTS for 4 years, serviced at the dealership

The Sonic is exactly in line with it's competition except the penalty box Versa Sedan, especially considering that every review so far lists it as the most fun to drive sub-compact out there today. Sonic Sedan Base - $13,735 Sonic Hatch Base - $14,635 Fiesta Sedan Base - $13,200 Fiesta Hatch Base - $15,500 Versa Sedan Base - $10,990 Versa Hatch Base - $14,380 Fit Hatch Base - $15,175 Yaris 5-door Base - $15,140 Caliber - $17,380 Accent Sedan Base - $14,195 Accent Hatch Base - $14,995 Rio Sedan Base - $12,295 Rio Hatch Base - $13,600

it..... it's not dead..... it's just restin...... it's pining for the Fords......

Didn't you read Reg? It's already being used in other factories, the Sonic is just the first to use the process in the U.S.

I think they all have that feature now.

na, not on this one.

moved out into the lounge to hopefully get more input

This Just In: 2012 Chevrolet Camaro SS - 45th Anniversary Edition 2012 marks 100 years of Chevrolet and 45 years of Camaro. This week's interactive review is the 45th Anniversary Camaro SS. We'll be taking it to the AACA meet in Hershey too, so if you go, be sure to look for us. In the meantime, fire off some questions in the Interactive Review: 2012 Chevrolet Camaro SS - 45th Anniversary Edition

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just wait and trade up to the biewique version of your car in a couple months... they come standard

They knock it in that article, but I still want to get my hands on a Challenger.... I just love the way they look... ... and when is the last time you heard me say that about a Chrysler product?

you can do it Balth!

Someone today called the Camaro I am driving a Firebird.....

Well first things first: They fixed the ginormous speedometer and tach needles that were so thick you couldn't see what speed you were going very precisely: 2011 version: 2012 version:

in case you hadn't seen, they sent a 45th Anniversary Edition Camaro hard top instead of a convertible. But still... an SS Manual

Interactive Review: 2012 Chevrolet Camaro SS - 45th Anniversary Edition Joining us this for a review is the 2010 Chevrolet Camaro SS 45th Anniversary Edition. 2012 marks 45 years of Chevy Camaro, and to celebrate, Chevy is offering the 2LT and 2SS with unique hood and decklid stripes in red and gray that contrast with the Carbon Flash Metallic paint, as well as badges located beneath the front fender emblems. Deep silver foglamp and taillamp bezels and 20-inch wheels. The interior has the 45th Anniversary logo on the Jet Black, leather-appointed seats, steering wheel and sill plates, and red, white and blue stitching on the seats, steering wheel, shift knob. For our part, we'll be putting this SS to the test with some good long distance driving. It will be going with us to the AACA Show in Hershey PA on Saturday, October 8th. On Sunday October 9th, we will be visiting the East Broad Top Railroad, and then Wednesday, October 12th, I am returning the SS to GM's fleet office in New Jersey where I exchange it for a Cruze Eco to go with me the rest of the way to Connecticut. So, there will be lots of seat time and opportunity for other C&Gers to check out the car.

Which brings me right back to my point that synthetic oil changes do not EVER cost $90 at Cadillac.

Well what is Benz going to do once the A-class comes to the states? That's a $24k car... Cruze territory. The 1-series is 27k. That is Verano territory. You can't be having $90 oil changes in those classes. There are plenty of people who can afford a $90 oil change and can afford a car in the CTS/C-class/3-series price range yet do not want to pay $90 for an oil change. My grandmother is a perfect example of someone like this. She had the 7-series twice because she always wanted a BMW. There are absolutely no money worries for her and the amount she drives means an oil change once a year. But despite her ability to pay she resented the excessive costs of maintenance for the car (on top of also being a lemon, twice) After two 7-series, she went back to Buick but not because she couldn't afford another 7-series. Her Park Aves never let her down and now she has a loaded Lacrosse.

I'd like to have something like Jalop's "nice price or crackpipe" thing they do on oddball cars found for sale, but we need a different title. Anyone have ideas?