Drew Dowdell

M5 = not a coupe + less torque + just barely out porks the CTS-V coupe

I see that despite being all new and re-invented, the stupid shift-gate on the 2012 Camry has remained the same.....

Roll your princess eyes all you want, but I've complained about this on all CTS Coupe trims since release. It is inexcusable for a luxury car to lack a rear armrest if it has a rear seat. I also don't care WHAT they use as trim as long as there is SOMETHING in the rear seat. Again, it's a luxury car--there shouldn't be a huge disconnect between the front and rear halves of the interior. When your $50,000 car only has a cheap hunk of metallic plastic for "trim" in the rear, you have a problem. Then Croc, ask the Lord to buy you a Mercedes-Benz. It's a free country. I prefer the vast performance advantages over the other German coupes. It's just going to be Albert and I 99.9% of the time... I really don't care what my backpack thinks of the back seat. If you're so concerned about back seat luxury and comfort in your high end sports car, maybe you can petition Buick to make you an Enclave GS.

This is how much of a change the 2012 Camry really is:

I'm seeing reports that a building has collapsed in Richmond, but no more details.

My office has 55" plasmas hanging from the ceiling. They were swaying noticeably.

They don't have any Turbo 4 alternatives to use. I still think this is an "all new" Camry the same way the 2006 Impala was "all new"

Felt pretty strong here.... I was 14 stories up at the time. Could see other buildings shaking.

Toyota Reveals the All New 2012 Toyota Camry 178 hp 4-cylinder 25/35 mpg 268 hp V6 21/30 mpg 200 hp 2.5 liter Hybrid 43/39 mpg Prices will be lower LE - $22,500 SE - $23,000 XLE - $24,725 LE Hybrid - $25,900 XLE Hybrid - $ Will be pace-car for 2012 Daytona 500 2012 Camry Album