Drew Dowdell

In the 20+ years they've been researching this, there has been no indications of it being cancer causing. Furthermore, due to the nature of the way it works, there is no reason to believe it even could be cancer causing. Certainly watch the data for the unknown, but the mechanism with which this process works doesn't suggest that possibility.

Again. mRNA vaccines are not new. They have been working on them for over 2 decades. What has changed is the speed at which we can extract the DNA, analyze it, and construct the mRNA. The first mRNA vaccine was reported on in testing in 1993 - Induction of virus-specific cytotoxic T lymphocytes in vivo by liposome-entrapped mRNA - PubMed (nih.gov) Here it is in 2009 being used for fragile cancer patients who needed extremely customized vaccines made in tiny batches for genetically specific cases - Direct Injection of Protamine-protected mRNA: Results of a P... : Journal of Immunotherapy (lww.com) Back in 2012 there was discussion about how flexible mRNA vaccines are and the realization of what a huge breakthrough it was. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3597572/ Money Quote: In 2013 there was discussion on how effective and safe mRNA vaccines are because of how specific the targeting process is. Money Quote And again in 2019 there was over 20 years of data showing: Challenges and advances towards the rational design of mRNA vaccines: Trends in Molecular Medicine (cell.com) So bottom line: these aren’t new, this is literally late 80's / early 90's technology the only thing that has changed is the speed at which we can sequence DNA there’s lots of info showing they’re safe the reason they weren’t widely used before had nothing to do with their safety they are ideally suited as the first response to a fast-moving pandemic I was not making a hyperbole when I stated that mRNA vaccines are the 3D Printing of the vaccine world. YES! They have been working on these for decades! There is data going back to when AMC was still an independent company! mRNA is safer because it is so tightly targeted. All it does is make replicas of one part of the membrane of the viral cell so that your body will recognize it. It's like passing out 3d mug-shots to every police officer in town so they can recognize the bad guy. The side effects that some people experience from the second dose are a good sign! It means that your body recognized the intruder and went to Red Alert thinking it was a real invasion... and with the second dose your body takes it even more serious. I got no side effects from the first shot but I got major side effects within 12 hours of the second shot.... that was my body mounting a defense. After 4 days or so, the vaccine was completely expelled from my body. And now I have those anti-bodies... just like I have antibodies to this year's flu, and the measles, and mumps, and Hep A/B, and others. Those antibodies do not cause cancer and anti-bodies for Covid do not cause cancer. You have antibodies to many common cold viruses already. Having antibodies to Covid-19 is no different. Everyone reading this please try to understand.... Covid-19 is not a particularly special virus, it's new, but not special. It is most closely related to the common cold. The only thing that is special about it is the intensity of the infection and it's ability to be more easily transmitted. To put it in car terms, Covid-19 is the beige 2003 Camry LE that someone did an LS swap into. Absolutely nothing special, but it can go fast and kill people. That's all it is.

Some of them look like the products of a woman infected with Zeka virus during pregnancy.

I've made my peace with the idea that I've probably bought my last V8s ever, and the ones I own are going to have to stay with me. Any new ICE vehicles I get will probably be 6es boosted either with turbos or electric motors (or both if I shop at Volvo). Albert will probably have one more vehicle with an ICE after the 300C but it will probably be a plug-in hybrid. He has said he will want to go back to an SUV next time, so it will probably be an Aviator plug-in or XC90 plug-in. I'm going to keep the Avalanche forever, but it will eventually stop being a daily and I'll have an EV or Plug-in Hybrid for a daily. I like the Rivian the best right now for myself but that is years away (but I waited years for the Avalanche, 300C, and BMW Motorcycle... so once I have my heart set on something.....) I'm making double payments on both, so the loans will be gone in under 3 years.

*sigh* ... someone is posting fuselage bodies in the Beautiful Cars Appreciation thread again.... time to get out the ban hammer... and yes, I know one of them is a Mercury, but it still manages to look fuselage.

Different definitions of beauty certainly. I think, with automobiles especially, there is distinct difference between handsome, beautiful, and attractive. I couldn't call the Chrysler beautiful either... I reserve that more for the 20's-30's cars, the ones with the flowy curves. Handsome would be like the '56 Continental, '57 Eldorado Brougham, and I know most will disagree, the '80 - '85 Seville. Then there are cars that are good looking enough but don't fall into those categories, but they have gravitas, just the pull of "This is something/someone important". The '63 Continental, '64 Imperial LeBaron, the CT6 (particularly the refresh), the '91 - '98 S-Class all fall into that group for me. And then there's the over the top gaudy, which I love but also doesn't fit into the above slots. '58 Buicks and Olds go here, all of the Big-Finned Cadillacs, the '61 and '62 Imperial Crown, Lincoln Continental Mark IV, and the '57 Chevy in a blue-collar sort of way.

As with everything, each according to his tastes.... however... the Italians were quite capable of building beautiful cars: It was the reliability that was always suspect. That said... I have lately been having an unhealthy obsession with these: 1990 Bentley Turbo R But I need an 80's British car like I need a hole in my head (which Albert would likely provide if I did buy one) And in looking for those photos, I stumbled upon this beauty: 1957 Bentley Continental S1 Fastback

I warned you against politics, you ignored it, so now you're getting warning points. Talking about our experiences getting the vaccine is not political. The fact that you think us discussing how we got the vaccine or the side effects we might have experienced is political says more about you than it does about us. It also goes back to my complaint in the Bad Behavior thread where I said: As far as my quote from the NYT.... what I provided was EVIDENCE from the New England Journal of Medicine. It was just a quote from the NYT summarizing in plainer language what the NEJM said. Compare that to your links (which will be removed): LawEnforcementToday triggers this warning in my browser: And even by their own admission, they are an OPINION site with anonymous sources and no accountability BorderReport is owned by NexStar which, like Sinclair group, is right wing propaganda masquerading as "Your Friendly Local News Channel". TFIGlobalNews is an Indian news site which runs Trump puff pieces.... an article dated today is talking about how Trump is going to win (riddled with spelling errors I might add). So, on my side I have a respected medical journal largely regarded as one of the standards of the world and to counter that, you provide a link to a site that causes a browser warning, a right-wing propaganda conglomerate, and a news outlet from India with a hard on for Trump.... NONE of which refute my statement (backed by the NEJM) that the vaccine offers greater protection from the virus than being infected does. So, I'm not going to even address the rest of your lies, I'm just going to delete them as I hand you your warning. You said your piece here. You're wrong about virtually every "fact" you've posted. Stay out of this thread. Further posts in this thread will result in further warnings until suspension kicks in.

The New York Post is a trash tabloid, but even then, the quotes are telling "half the nurses in the facility would not get the vaccine, citing political reasons." and "Survey respondents leaning against taking the vaccine said, among other reasons, that they were concerned how politics influenced the development of the vaccine". Also, that article is from December 30th, just a few weeks after the vaccine had been released. How about some up to date data, no? FALSE: The pandemic is not winding down. There are spikes again in a number of major cities including my own. ALSO FALSE - The administration has not changed testing procedures at the boarder. Anyone caught by CBP is held for 72 hours while they are tested. This is carry over policy from the previous administration. Biden Hasn't Reduced COVID-19 Testing at the Border - FactCheck.org - Lots of sources at the bottom too. But you're getting dangerously close to bumping into the No Politics rule. You've already used your final opportunity on that one. So move on from that point. ALSO FALSE - It is being well documented, however the full extent of the greater benefit is not yet fully known. ‘Natural Immunity’ From Covid Is Not Safer Than a Vaccine - The New York Times (nytimes.com) "Early evidence suggests that the Covid-19 vaccines may fall into this category. Volunteers who received the Moderna shot had more antibodies — one marker of immune response — in their blood than did people who had been sick with Covid-19." If you follow that link in the quote, it will take you to the NEJM where it will state in the report that people who had Covid-19 had 80% effectiveness while the vaccines have ~95% effectiveness. 80% < 95% Not my opinion... take it up with the New England Journal of Medicine, the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, and the 31 doctors that worked on the study. If you think you're more qualified to make an assessment than those doctors and organizations, please provide some credential so we know it's not just your opinion.

That's actually a lower rate than the article from Israel that I quoted, so I'm not sure why you think that helps your argument. And all it is saying is that the vaccine didn't protect everyone. We KNOW that. We knew it going into it. Vaccines rarely ever protect everyone and there is nearly always someone who is unable to take a vaccine for other health reasons. That is why it is so important for those of us who can take the vaccine to take the vaccine... to protect those who can't. That is the only ethical way we get to herd immunity. If 80% of people out there take the vaccine, this pandemic is over. By not taking it, you're only helping to extend it longer. Even if you had covid, you are not as protected from the virus or variants as you are if you took the vaccine.

I did... here's is a quote from one of them.... 271 out of 3,387,340 people got severely infected with Covid after being vaccinated (and we don't have any information on their underlying health conditions, so they could all be obese diabetics for all we know), and of those, 99 still died (but again, the article doesn't give info... did they die from Covid or were they already compromised in some way with severe co-morbities?) 0.2% of those vaccinated caught the virus, 2% of those people or 0.000029% of the total vaccinated, died. Only 0.00021% of those who were vaccinated caught covid and got serious illness. You don't get much more of a sure thing in risk management of any sort, in the world of vaccines, this is a grand slam hit out of the park success. By comparison, the Flu vaccine is between 40% and 60% effective depending on the strain in a given year. The Pfizer and Moderna vaccines are ~95% effective. All numbers came from your article in the last link. I consider that one to be one of the best because Israel has by-far the highest Covid vaccination rate of any country, so I consider its data to be the most revealing.

My contribution to Easter Dinner. My entire pod is fully vaccinated now so we were able to gather for the first time in a year. Strawberry cheesecake, everything is homemade.

The reason they are still telling people to mask even if they’ve been vaccinated is that you can be an asymptomatic carrier. So even if your aren’t ill, you can carry the virus for a time and if you sneeze, say for seasonal allergies, you can spread the virus. That isn’t a reason to not get vaccinated. If the odds of winning a roll of the dice were 95% in a casino, I’ll take that bet every single time. Even if I hit the 5% and lose, I can roll again in 90 days. Risk assessment has been part of my job for over a decade and a half.

That is expected. The flu shot has a lower effectiveness than the Covid shot. None of the vaccines are expected to be 100%. However the vaccine is effective that even if you’re vaccinated and still get it you don’t end up in the hospital. so that is a major improvement over dying. That’s the point of the vaccine, to prevent mortality. That’s why getting the vaccine is important even with the variants.

Different markets. The Rivian prioritizes range over ultimate power. Also there is a big difference in size.

A lot of the Covid deniers will point to the survival rate (while also pointing at the wrong number), but survival does not equal recovery. People survive cancer all the time, but they are often not able to do the things they once did. My old boss was a multi-time cancer survivor (it did get him eventually) but even when he was in remission he was relegated to a lifetime of medications that had side effects and he couldn’t take the stairs going up because he no longer had adrenal glands. So yeah, he survived cancer for a time, but he never recovered. The same is happening to people who get Covid.

And the case of the Uglies rolls on with EVs. Why does every EV have to be so god damn ugly!?! I like the numbers from the power train, but the car could be powered by the risen Jesus pedaling hard and I still wouldn’t drive that thing. So far, the only EVs I think look decent are the Audi, Porsche, and Volvo/Polestar. The Rivians look great. The BMW, MB, Hummer, and Bolt all look ugly or dorky. The Teslas and Jaguar are meh. If the Cadillacs stay close to concept they should look pretty good, but Cadillac has a habit or producing gorgeous concepts and then dumbing them down a lot for production.

I have friends in Boulder Colorado who got it very early in the pandemic, just before things started getting locked down. They were sick for a month and pulled through, however a year later they still have after effects. This is a very healthy couple who would get out and exercise regularly and go hiking in the mountains. These days they get winded climbing up the one flight of stairs to their apartment. As far as I know they haven’t had any chest X-rays, but there’s plenty of evidence that they’ve suffered long term/permanent lung damage. They’re the same age as me.

@USA-1 your strong immune system could very well be your undoing if you were to catch Covid. Many of the young healthy people who died did so because their immune system over reacted and flooded their lungs with mucus and inflamed air passages too much in an attempt to fight the virus. You are correct that mRNA vaccines have not been widely used like this before, but they are not untested. The vaccine itself is out of your system within a few days of each shot, removed by your immune system. While using mRNA is a new technique for creating immune response, that’s where the novelty of it ends. Once your body recognizes it as an intruder, the immune process works the same as any other vaccine or even just being infected. And because the vaccine is expelled within days by the body, there is no reason to assume any long term side effects. Think of mRNA as the 3D Printing of the vaccine world. Once the composition of a virus’s spike protein is known, we now have the ability to isolate just the DNA that creates just that spike protein. With today’s technology, that means a vaccine can be developed for a specific virus within weeks to months instead of years. The implications of mRNA vaccines are huge. While we’ve all been talking about just COVID-19, scientists are already looking at using this technology for scores of other diseases such as cancer. This has been a breakthrough as big or bigger than antibiotics and we’re seeing the beginning of it. mRNA vaccines won’t work for all types of viruses, but it will work for a lot of common ones. I imagine in a few years once the focus on Covid has died down, there will be vaccines for the common cold. And because the technology is akin to 3D printing, the new vaccines will be relatively cheap to produce as well. The data so far shows that people who have been vaccinated have significantly higher antibody levels than those who got Covid, so even if you had it before you are not as well protected as someone who got their shots. The only people who died from the shot were either in extremely frail health and should not have been vaccinated in the first place or people who have severe allergic reactions to an unrelated ingredient in the vaccine. People who experience certain kinds of allergies are instructed not to get the Moderna or Pfizer shots. The J&J shot has a significantly lower rate of allergic reaction, but also lower protection from the virus. There are only 2 big question marks that will only be answered with time. 1. Will we need to get boosters to combat against variants? So far the data shows that while you may not be completely protected from a new variant, having the vaccine does prevent the illness from becoming serious enough to cause hospitalization and completely prevents death from the virus. So for now, getting the shots is worthwhile even with the variants out there. I will get the Moderna variants booster if/when it becomes available and needed. We have to do this with influenza every year, so it’s no big deal. 2. The other question mark is on how long immunity lasts. Most vaccines require booster shots after a period of years. The MMR vaccine is usually given to children, but for people my age and older they’re finding that the body forgets how to make the antibodies after a bunch of years for the vaccine that was being used in the early 80s when I got mine. There is a newer MMR shot that is supposed to improve on that which children are getting these days. I got a booster for MMR a couple years ago because I had the old vaccine. A few years ago I talked to my doctor and had him put me on a schedule to get boosters of anything and everything I might need because I was traveling internationally regularly. But the risk of the body forgetting how to make antibodies is present for nearly all vaccines, so while we do not have data yet on when boosters for Covid-19 might be needed, I’m just assuming they will be needed eventually in order to maintain immunity. I do hope you’ll reconsider and eventually get the shot USA.

Gas cap loose?

Without vaccines, “herd immunity” is just another way of saying “the weak shall perish”. These vaccines have been in development for over a decade and that’s the only reason they were done so quickly. They were trying to develop a vaccine for common cold viruses and the work they did for that translated directly into a Covid-19 vaccine. I would expect CDC guidance to change as the situation changes and new things are learned, that’s just common sense. My whole pod is vaccinated now, so we’re able to gather as a family for the first time since last year for Easter. So far, the vaccine is proving to be effective against severe illness when someone is infected with the variants. I expect all of those who get vaccinated will need boosters at some point. I get my flu vaccine every year, I’ll get the Covid one as often as needed.

So that second pair is pretty close to what I’d buy if I got LEDs because they look pretty close to OEM. However, I think this set might also look awesome given the horizontal theme on my front end. Four horizontal DRLs might look awesome.

If one person tailgates you, they’re a douchebag. If a whole line of cars is tailgating you, you’re the douchebag.

Wrong year, I need the sealed beam style. I ended up buying the Philips Crystal Visions. $54 for all 4 bulbs. I’ll run them for a while and if I don’t like them I’ll get the Philips LED version. I didn’t go with them this time around because they’re $86 per bulb plus tax and shipping on RockAuto. I don’t remember the last time I changed the halogens on the Toronado and halogen bulbs lose brightness over time. So it might just be age.

I’m not finding and LED retrofits that I like, so I may try those.